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Hey guys, Ive been playing pokerstars for about 10 years now, entered pretty much all it has to offer and I think overall in general, I have done pretty well and succeeded in majority of the tournaments that I have entered. This year alone, I have cashed in roughly 35% of the tournaments I have played in however I cant quite seem to get past the min cash whatsoever. All my results are pretty much within the bottom 10% of the pay and I just cant believe it especially when in majority of the tournaments I play in, I have usually got such a strong jump start and play very solid throughout the entire tournament. It seems as soon as the bubble bursts, the sick beats start to roll out and I dont know how to simply overcome this. I played last year in 14 Sunday Storms and cashed in total over $200 (so pretty much cashed in about 3-4 of them worth about $50 each) and it is just frustrating me beyond belief! Anybody out there in the same boat? Or anybody got any tips whatsoever?
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Cashing in 35% of tournaments is a very high % so I assume from this stat that you're not taking enough risks and playin far too safe a game. Do you find yourself getting in the money very short stacked? That could also explain the bad beats because if you're very short on chips you will get called very light and appear to lose more often because you have to go to showdown.

Welcome to CC. There's lots of info here that will help you with your game so maybe have a look in the tourney forums here to start.
 
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In majority of the tournaments Im in when I make the pay, generally Im amongst the average stacks or slightly higher. I think that my game style doesnt change much even when the bubble is burst, I just find that a really cold hand will generally always come along. I would definitely say that this year has been the best year so far for cashing and hopefully I can keep this up for the Micromillions. Ill give you an example of some of the things I go through. In a 3.30 rebuy tournament that I entered last week, there were 17 left, pay was at about $120 at the time and my stack was at about 375k (average was 410k), on the big blind I was dealt As Js with UTG raising it to 60k (blinds 10/20k) so I called. flop came down Ks 2s Jc, UTG bet 100k, I shipped and he snapped me off with Kings. Its generally been my exit in nearly every tournament so far when I have ran deep. If it wasnt myself running into the nuts. It would be a high pocket pair of mine for example QQ into a board of 892, shipping it and getting snapped off with 10J and the 7 hitting the river. Its just damaging my thought process and I really wanted to just get it out there before the next tournament series that I want to focus on. Thanks for the reply and Ill be sure to check your forum you suggested.
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If you are 'grindsince93' on pokerstars I think you may have your statistics skewed a bit. If by cashed in 35% of tournaments in 2013 (which is so unrealistic I had to check it - I have lifetime 22% on PS which is about as high as it gets) you meant you have cashed in 10% than that would be correct. And 11% over the entire period.

And this player only cashes in 2 $11s all of last year.

Of course, if you are not grindsince93 on PS this is all immaterial. But I sure would love to see someone's stats who has cashed 35% over any meaning ful period. I have never seen it before
 
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Yea man, ive played alot of tourneys myself in 2012 and know what you mean. i was lucky enough to reach 1 or 2 final tables but more or less,i know exactly whats happening to you.

Well, unfortunately in order to run super deep and hit big money your going to have to get a bit lucky. (on top of playing well) Cause i assure you that many of us play with a same style(shoving the same cards or same draws etc). the thing is that you must keep trying and not be too afraid to gamble. as im sure you know, variance is huge in MTT's and most of the time you will cash , but not cash "HUGE".

According to the percentage that you clain to be in the money, im sure that with persistence you will definitely win one of these sooner or later. its a matter of patience and self discipline. Its really tought o play for 6-7 hours and lose around 12th to 40th but someone goes throught that each and every single day in every tournament. sometimes its better to lose immediately than lose before the important money.

All i can say is that you may be doing everything right and Lady luck hasnt smiled to you yet. I wish you the best of luck and im sure if you remain cool ,you will eventually take one down. GOOD LUCK.
 
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In a few words. Your going to have to win your races and flips . nothing more you can do after a point ,BUT, to get lucky.
 
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Hey guys, Ive been playing Pokerstars for about 10 years now, entered pretty much all it has to offer and I think overall in general, I have done pretty well and succeeded in majority of the tournaments that I have entered. This year alone, I have cashed in roughly 35% of the tournaments I have played in however I cant quite seem to get past the min cash whatsoever. All my results are pretty much within the bottom 10% of the pay and I just cant believe it especially when in majority of the tournaments I play in, I have usually got such a strong jump start and play very solid throughout the entire tournament. It seems as soon as the bubble bursts, the sick beats start to roll out and I dont know how to simply overcome this. I played last year in 14 Sunday Storms and cashed in total over $200 (so pretty much cashed in about 3-4 of them worth about $50 each) and it is just frustrating me beyond belief! Anybody out there in the same boat? Or anybody got any tips whatsoever?
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Not quite sure how to fix your problem, my man, but if it makes you feel better I would've cashed in the top 10 of a 25K tourney yesterday & lost over half my stack TWICE to an Ace on the flush when I held the King! Just gotta keep grinding & the odds will get in your favor! :cool:
 
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Firstly to clarify with you WEC. 'Grindsince93' has been my account for roughly the last 4 months. Over the last 10 years of playing, I have had numerous accounts and probably during the starting periods of my poker career, I played loads of freerolls and play money tournaments. A few of my mates all play also and have used Grindsince93 since the beginning of its birth being in 2010 I think. Yes, over my period of playing on in, within larger tournaments and smaller fields, I have cashed in approximately 30-35% of the tournaments which really isnt all that great considering it is over a short period of time. Also considering as I have cashed alot these last few months, I have ran pretty good to get there and my posing questions concern the next stage of these tournaments. I didnt play in only 2 sunday storms, I have played in multiple as suggested and when I have time, I will upload results of these tournaments and other ones to prove my cashing percentage. Thanks for your advice guys, it is much appreciated and I believe also that 'Lady Luck' when she comes around will help me to break through, its also good to see that others are in the same boat. Hopefully we can overcome the odds and provide results that really stand out sooner than later.
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time to find a good leakbuster and and study your game find those leaks that are keeping your game the same after time we all have to change our style in order to advance deeper in tournys
 
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thanks for the leakbuster advice! so far tonight ive played in 5 tournaments and cashed in 2 so my results are still staying strong. Currently in a 5.10 hyper with 33 left, hopefully cash well! Grindsince93 search me if youd like
 
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I hope u cashed well. I seem to find myself on the losing end of the variance lately. Hopefully it will turn soon.
 
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I ended up cashing well for this tournament, obviously still a little disappointed I couldn't of finished with a better result, yeah your right, our time will come, it just takes patience my friend
 
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Firstly to clarify with you WEC. 'Grindsince93' has been my account for roughly the last 4 months. Over the last 10 years of playing, I have had numerous accounts and probably during the starting periods of my poker career, I played loads of freerolls and play money tournaments. A few of my mates all play also and have used Grindsince93 since the beginning of its birth being in 2010 I think. Yes, over my period of playing on in, within larger tournaments and smaller fields, I have cashed in approximately 30-35% of the tournaments which really isnt all that great considering it is over a short period of time. Also considering as I have cashed alot these last few months, I have ran pretty good to get there and my posing questions concern the next stage of these tournaments. I didnt play in only 2 sunday storms, I have played in multiple as suggested and when I have time, I will upload results of these tournaments and other ones to prove my cashing percentage. Thanks for your advice guys, it is much appreciated and I believe also that 'Lady Luck' when she comes around will help me to break through, its also good to see that others are in the same boat. Hopefully we can overcome the odds and provide results that really stand out sooner than later.
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Based on the parts I have Bolded, you may not want to win a big one, you probably wont get paid. What you have done is against all the rules and regulations of most poker sites.
I also think the 30-35% cashing in tournaments is unrealistic
 
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you arent allowed to share your account or have multiple accounts. I was banned on full tilt for having multiple accounts, even though i wasnt doing anything wrong otherwise. Id just want to start fresh and didnt think it was a big deal. eventually i was unbanned but be careful that you dont break the rules. Also you said you were in a hyper tourny. if that is what you are usually playing, then it makes sense why you take bad beats. people have to play loose in hypers
 
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Ill give you an example of some of the things I go through. In a 3.30 rebuy tournament that I entered last week, there were 17 left, pay was at about $120 at the time and my stack was at about 375k (average was 410k), on the big blind I was dealt As Js with UTG raising it to 60k (blinds 10/20k) so I called. flop came down Ks 2s Jc, UTG bet 100k, I shipped and he snapped me off with Kings. Its generally been my exit in nearly every tournament so far when I have ran deep.

If you have an average stack after bubble bursts, I would suggest laying low for a little bit. Play loosens up drastically after the bubble burst, so its best to tighten up until things cool down a bit. On the flip side, I suggest trying to be more aggressive around bubble time. People tighten up and small pots can be had with relative ease. You can build your stack enough to ride out the loose play after the burst.

Additionally, you may be taking unnecessary risks late in the game. To make it deep, you no doubt have to get lucky, but you need to avoid big pots in middling situations.

Looking at the hand above, a UTG raiser (Assuming this was 9 handed) isn't going to be raising with a weak hand. This deep in the tourney, you can assume a AQ, AK, and TT or better as the range. Depending on his play, it could very easily be even tighter.

So AJ is dominated by 3 hands, in bad shape against 3 hands, and a slight dog in 1 hand. There is a good argument to be made for folding here, especially considering the fact that you will be OOP the rest of the hand. However, you do get a discount from the BB so a call can also be justified.

On the flop, his lead out is a standard CB, but the board is very favorable to his range. I don't like the shove here. It is a huge gamble for your tourney life, IMO. Personally, I would keep the pot as small as possible because I am still on a draw. I wouldn't assume the J is good here without more info. If he calls, you know your behind. There is a chance you take it down right there, but that flop is all over his range. I wouldn't expect him to fold very often.

To me, this wasn't a necessary risk to take. You could keep the pot small and play the remaining streets accordingly. At the very least, he shoves the turn and you can't get away, as risking your life with 1 card to go is pretty difficult IMO. You may be short stacked, but at least your still in the hunt.
 
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Based on the parts I have Bolded, you may not want to win a big one, you probably wont get paid. What you have done is against all the rules and regulations of most poker sites.
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I also think the 30-35% cashing in tournaments is unrealistic
Just to give you an idea... the top most-winning (& highest ROI%) MTT players online do not cash anywhere near 30-35% of the time in large-field MTT's.

Using the Sunday Storm as an example in your posts seems a bit odd to me as well. The Storm is a huge field and payouts are small for a long while ITM.
Although I'd like to finish ITM in all of them, I'd be happy with cashing in something like the Storm maybe 2/10 & hopefully 1 in 20 is over $200.

Also, don't let yourself think that you are particularly unlucky (unless you've booked 10,000 mtt's, are an excellent player and are still running only break-even). Anyone who's played any significant number of tourneys could list a gazillion spots where it was losing one big hand, whether it be a cooler of having AA < KK , or AA < QQ, AK < AQ, etc. etc. in a huge confrontation with another bigstack, with the loss meaning being out (or almost out) instead of sitting in Top5 with 50 left (of a large-field), etc. etc. etc. etc. and on & on....
It is normal.
Or the other umpteen gazillion times you have villain (tard) pegged, waiting for the spot where you know the idiot will committ their stack while way behind (ie.you flop top set, he check-raises flop w ATo .. with a gutshot, you re-raise with Top Set KKK... and he ships it (with a huge overshove).. you snap him off as a monster favourite and he hits his miracle card. But this doesn't happen that often! (%-wise) but at times it does... and times when it might mean making a deep final table run or just a crap min-cash.

Honestly all of it is meaningless. .... the 'thinking we're due because we're good (in our own minds) and we 'deserve' it'. The focus should be (& will be ... once you get good) on taking optimal lines, making best play in each particular spot based upon many factors. If we know we're doing this... the rest doesn't matter. If we're not (or we realize we're not) then we just focus on that (or analyze, review, etc. so that we can work on constantly improving & working on playing our best at all times).
 
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