Calling a short stack all in shove

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Late stage in a MTT/SnG

Would you call a short stack all in shove if you're holding AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, QT, JT suited or unsuited and not in position for 30%-60% of stack.

Don't know if percentages is right for short stack but calling will leave you less than 20BB is you lose hand.
 
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With AJ, ATs and KQ and KJs I would. Lot of times shorter stacks get a bit desperate at this stage. Hope this helps.
 
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With AJ, ATs and KQ and KJs I would. Lot of times shorter stacks get a bit desperate at this stage. Hope this helps.

yes as long as the call is smaller than 25% of my stack.
 
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I would never call a shove without an A or pair. (A2o beats KQs 54% of the time.)
Suited only adds 2% and not in position doesnt matter since you usually dont get a 3rd AI.
 
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I often coll All-In on interesting hand. I am gambler!
 
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Late stage in a MTT/SnG

Would you call a short stack all in shove if you're holding AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, QT, JT suited or unsuited and not in position for 30%-60% of stack.

Don't know if percentages is right for short stack but calling will leave you less than 20BB is you lose hand.

I usually Call if not bubble. and I usually Fold if bubble.
 
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Thanks for the information guys, appreciate it :)

I will use all above info to take my game to the next level.
 
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I would never call a shove without an A or pair. (A2o beats KQs 54% of the time.)
Suited only adds 2% and not in position doesnt matter since you usually dont get a 3rd AI.
If you aren't getting your money in behind at some point in a tournament, you're playing way too tight.

Also, KQ vs A/X has a much better chance at winning the hand than A2 vs A/X does. That's assuming your opponent is only shoving A/X hands. Even if they're shoving pairs 22+, KQ still has a better chance against most pairs than A2 has.
 
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I would definitely call the shove. The shover seems to either not care or is desperate.
 
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Depending on the position of the player and the stats that I have on him, I am calling a very few hands but when not in position I am going to be raising all in to him with a wide range because of fold equity.
Usually calling with- A10o+, A8s+, K9s+, Q10s+ and almost all pocket pairs.
Raising with a little wider range than this.
Again, my decision can change based on a lot of things going at the table.
 
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to wide of a spectrum from AJ to JT
+ agains whom? if agrowith a short stack - I guess yes; to get value out of the hand, if tight - not really
 
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All about position for me. I went out 40th when i was ranked 12th in a freeroll yesterday when the button went all in with 3k chips on my ace king suited. I jammed with 32k chips trying to make certain the only person at the table who had more chips than me wouldnt be able to call, which of course he did with a jack 8os. I hit king on the flop and he hit an 8. Turn nothing, river 8 and i was gone from the tourny. The low stack jammer had 10 7 os.

So yeah i should have never shoved here. But even calling with top pair top kicker I was a dead man.
 
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Late stage in a MTT/SnG

Would you call a short stack all in shove if you're holding AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, QT, JT suited or unsuited and not in position for 30%-60% of stack.

Don't know if percentages is right for short stack but calling will leave you less than 20BB is you lose hand.

I would like to call that shove, IF there is no multi way all in. But IF i'm holding AA-KK-AK i will accept for multi way all in.

In some cases, i'm prefer to avoid multi way all in in late stage even i'm holding monster hand, because sometimes folding is better way to cancel the "unlucky"
 
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you need to know your tourney equity, and you probably need to worry more about the players left to act, because with 20bbs effective they can easily reshove over you
 
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it seems absurd that idea to call 20 bb with that range of hands but depending on where it is located and when I saw that player payment
 
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I think so, because in the most of hands, the short stack will move all in with bad hands.
 
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Where is the information? How many players at the table? From a position of all-in? Someone raise before all-in (maybe reraise)? Where is your position? How aggressively the opponent played? What the hands he showed? What about his raises? Where position of him? etc

Tell me something without knowing that...

There are situations in which you cant call pre-flop all-in with QQ.
But there are situations in which you must call pre-flop all-in with Q2o.
 
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More information would be needed like the actual shove size and positions. I would be more willing in the BB to call a Button shove than UTG if the stack sizes are the same all around. Also having players left to act has to be a factor.
 
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I believe that should not be only hold the value of hands , one reise short stack out of position, without being all in showing a lot of strength , of course will have to see if the table where you are know to see this kind of move, otherwise shov with value hands
 
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I agree with you jim brown , the more people to home after you worse the situation, so good and always play button and co !
 
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you guys consider a BB shov with a marginal hand but sc such as a 9TS one JTs one 56s ?
 
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Let's say it's for 40% of your stack, and the remaining 60% leaves you with less than 20BB, it means your stack is pretty short too...
Given how extremely short the villain's stack is, you'd have to call considering his excessively wide range based on his desperation...
Not to mention your own short-stacked-ness should make you fairly desperate too, so if you wake up with AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, QT, JT, and a short-stack All-In, take it... You should win more often than you lose...
 
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