Call or fold in this situation?

ammje · Apr 10, 2019

Hi mates, what would they do in this situation, SB complete the bb, then check-check on the flop and turn..
The villain makes a small bet, and I make raises to 6500, the villain push.
I thought a lot, but decided to fold.
I did not have much information about the villain, because I have not played much against him, but he is a good player.
If I was another type of player, I would have called.

micromachine · Apr 11, 2019

That’s probably a good fold. The shove looks strong after your reraise, unlikely to be a bluff and A + weak kicker would probably just call the raise.

RedGnom · Apr 11, 2019

I would fold too.
The arguments for the fold as follows:
-Stack size.
Don't think he got such amount of chips through loose manner of the playing. Looks like TAG player with well ballanced game acting appropriately to his position, situation and number of chips.
-Defending the small blind.
Based on the foregoing, if I were he, I would complete BB with such a hands as JQ, with any small pair up to TT and maybe with A+8,9. Proceedding from this assumption, having nuts on the flop/turn, I would wait for check raise till the end.

milka1605 · Apr 11, 2019

Most likely the opponent had a full house or a straight with a jacket and a lady. More than that depends on how important this tournament is to you.

blanktheman · Apr 11, 2019

yeah it seems like it was a good fold. Even if you a brilliant player you would've still folded. It seems like he was trying to get you to call all your chips and you might have lost. It was a good fold.

tscheniizu · Apr 11, 2019

Would also agree with the fold.

Don't see a bluff here, too expensive.

Worst case in which you could have called: It was three-of-a kind asses and he didn't see the straight here.

Any other cases - Higher straight, maybe full-house (A8, A10, TT, 88 is not unusual to play!) - justify the fold.

madjek · Apr 11, 2019

I probably snap call, then kick myself for being so stupid and not thinking. Though with that board and all the potential good hands I'm not sure why he would shove A's over, I'm sure you would of called a good value raise, maybe 15k, you prob would put in another 8.5k at that point.

TheRealPage · Apr 11, 2019

possibilitiy of a full house with A8 or A9 is there.. also a higher straight with J7 suited.. chances of A10, QJ or pockets 8s, 9s, 10s or As are low (but still exist) here since flop was flat called without previous raise.. playing a freeroll.. but deep like that in the tourney..stacked like this, practically doubling the second stack of the table..

I call it a nice play!.. I would also be an add to my "Good ol'fold" category!

-TRP-

Datdude1 · Apr 11, 2019

A fold in this situation was probably the best thing to do but the way I've been playing the last few days I probably would have called and been upset. I'm going to reevaluate my game plan so I will have more discipline to fold in similar situations.

ammje · Apr 11, 2019

milka1605 said:
Most likely the opponent had a full house or a straight with a jacket and a lady. More than that depends on how important this tournament is to you.

All tournaments are important to me, I always try to play well, even if it's a freeroll.

tscheniizu said:
Would also agree with the fold.

Don't see a bluff here, too expensive.

Worst case in which you could have called: It was three-of-a kind asses and he didn't see the straight here.

Any other cases - Higher straight, maybe full-house (A8, A10, TT, 88 is not unusual to play!) - justify the fold.

TheRealPage said:
possibilitiy of a full house with A8 or A9 is there.. also a higher straight with J7 suited.. chances of A10, QJ or pockets 8s, 9s, 10s or As are low (but still exist) here since flop was flat called without previous raise.. playing a freeroll.. but deep like that in the tourney..stacked like this, practically doubling the second stack of the table..

I call it a nice play!.. I would also be an add to my "Good ol'fold" category!

-TRP-

I did not think he had many A T-9-8 or TT 99 88 because he would have made an open raise.
I thought maybe he had 76, but it was very expensive to see his cards for a draw.
later I thought that he could have J7 or QJ.

Fortunately, the player was friendly and showed me his cards, otherwise I would have been tilt for the rest of the game.

TeUnit · Apr 11, 2019

I think the fold is good, there is probably not much he would reraise you with that you could beat. In freerolls, villians often river overbet with missed value.

marcumx · Apr 11, 2019

he either made a boat or trips with that much at stake i fold only way i call is a) im itm B only 20% of my stack is at stake

sheltowee420 · Apr 11, 2019

If you had just checked, it would make the fold an easier decision.

Edison A · Apr 11, 2019

ammje said:
All tournaments are important to me, I always try to play well, even if it's a freeroll.

I did not think he had many A T-9-8 or TT 99 88 because he would have made an open raise.
I thought maybe he had 76, but it was very expensive to see his cards for a draw.
later I thought that he could have J7 or QJ.
Fortunately, the player was friendly and showed me his cards, otherwise I would have been tilt for the rest of the game.

LOL

betang · Apr 11, 2019

I also agree with fold, for the following reasons:
- The villan has a big stack size, so we can believe he is not a bad player and may not bluff in such a big pot (unless you observed he got many pots bluffing)
- The villan was small blind so his hand range is quite big and we can find Q J there.

MiCephia · Apr 11, 2019

GOOD FOLD!

ammje said:
Himates,what would they do in this situation, SB complete the bb, then check-check on the flop and turn..
The villain makes a small bet, and I make raises to 6500, the villain push.

Good fold. he was waiting for you to hit something then pounced. He prob hit trips on flop then fullhouse on turn or river

ammje · Apr 11, 2019

mackmasterss said:
LOL

If this hand had been against you, I might have call for your way of playing.:aetsch::bird:

onlynuts19 · Apr 19, 2019

0546474 · Apr 19, 2019

I did not see the whole line of the draw, but most likely it is a fold !!!

jokkerivanapoiss · Apr 19, 2019

I would consider calling, but that's just me. I know I do bad stuff, but I try my luck sometimes.

dedok0525 · Apr 19, 2019

With three aces on the flop, he would prefer to make a bet that would protect from the draw. If he has a full house on the flop, he may be waiting for your call. If it's nothing, in a game against the big stack, he would prefer to make a check. On the river you have to make a straight, and you bet, and he reraised. Street two-way. And you can make a fold having jr strit.

sheltowee420 · Apr 19, 2019

If you know that a player plays tight, then a fold is a good move. But, I think you wasted some chips with the first bet.

619Leafs · Apr 27, 2019

I would fold however in my opinion there was not any reason to raise because your chances of stealing the pot is not good when an Ace is on the board.

Eric Salvador · Apr 27, 2019

Usually you find yourself behind here. I’d say this is a good fold but just now there are guys how will show up here with trips. If you had more info and knew villain was kinda splashy or has the ability to bluff you a call can be in order here. I’d personally find an easier spot to navigate

weezy1312 · Apr 27, 2019

good discipline on that fold !!! you really meant it when you said you take every game seriously ! wish i could learn that , best of luck on your upcoming games )

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