Originally Posted by Deadly Silent
There are a few situations when I would actually fold the bullets here. If I were on tilt and playing way over my bankroll management and was just trying to score some change, or if I were in a freeroll and just trying to get a bankroll started, or in the WSOP Main Event and wanted to say hey I cashed in the WSOP Main Event then I would fold the pocket rockets but other than that I make that call every freaking time. Does not look like any of these applied to you so you made the right deciscion. Shit happens just hopefully you will be on the other end next time.
Are you serious? If you have a bankroll to manage and even know what "bankroll management" is, then why are you playing above your bankroll? If it's a freeroll, then you got in for free, you won't lose anything, and stand to make double or triple digits instead of just $2 or even less by calling or shoving with AA, so why would you fold?
Earlier today I was short stacked and close to the bubble. There were shorter stacks, but with less than 15 BB's left and antes, heck, who needs M ratio to figure out they're short stacked at that point? The blinds and antes weren't huge and I coulda just let myself get ante'd off. I got dealt QQ, it's nowhere near AA. I shoved pre-flop anyway, was up against A10 and 44, well A10 won. Not complaining though. It was my choice and it made sense. I hadn't sat there for hours and hours, to barely double up if that.
I sat for hours and hours in hopes of winning over $1.5k and never having to freeroll, short stack, or play way over my head(w/o a choice) ever again. Hell's belles, just making it to the final table would have boosted my br to triple digits.
You need momentum to make it to the final table. It comes in spurts, but you never build any momentum if you fold big pairs just to cash for crumbs. You can build it by shoving with big pairs anything decent and a bunch of semi-junk(even short stacked you can steal on occasion) when short stacked though.
Hmmm, how many ways can I cram "short stacked" into a sentence?
As for the WSOP Main Event. What if that table where you're dealt AA is a feature table? What if the whole world sees you fold AA to 72os because the person shoving has more guts and/or depends on people like you just wanting to cash? You'll coulda-shoulda-woulda'd yourself into an early grave you will. That or all the pointing and laughing will make you shrivel up to the size of a piece of gravel and fall through a crack in the floor.
So I thought about it, and there is a good time to fold AA. It's when there are maybe 4 or so nits ahead of you and they're all raising and reraising. Then you might consider the possibility that you're drawing dead. After all, the nits probably have big pairs or big suited connectors while the other players could just as easily be holding paint/rag or smaller suited connectors and the like.
Even then it's a judgement call. Still, that's about the only time I'd even think about it save for if I'm sitting pretty and can coast into a seat in a bigger tournamet, but then I probably wouldn't even see the AA cuz I'd be too busy fixing a snack in the kitchen, or watching tv.
Finally getting around to reading Super System and it says that you can play a hand in 2 different ways and have both ways be correct. I still haven't gotten to the section that says "Fold AA pre-flop on the bubble". If and when I find it I'll let ya know what page it's on.