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I always have a problem with bluffing when people check i fire out numorus bullets to my opponets what should i do to make my bluffing more valuble to myself?
 
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Bluffing guidlines for Mirco's
Cash game? bluff rarely.
SNG? Don't bluff.
MTT? Bluff very rarely.
 
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thats right...rare bluffin at best, especially on low/micro limits

bluffs good on MTT when blinds are high

also situational, not just cuz guy before you checks....whats the chip stacks, position, aggression factor...easier to bluff tight passive players...
 
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I play STT and typically I won't bluff until later in the tourney. Even then it's dangerous. It also depends on who I'm trying to bluff off a hand. I need to know their stats so I'll have a decent idea as to whether or not they'll call. And some people just won't drop certain hands. I had one guy last night call me with only top pair despite a straight being on the board.

One other piece of advice. When I do bluff, most times I've raised it preflop. It's a lot easier to get someone off of a hand if you've already shown aggression.
 
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This is a very general question. The best way to learn and to get good feedback is to participate in the Hand Analysis section: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/tournament-hand-analysis-51/

By posting your own hands and answering other people's questions, you will get much better much more quickly imo.

Generally, bluffing is going to depend on villain type, your table image, board texture, stack sizes, etc. I don't think you should never do it, in fact it's pretty essential for success in any form of poker. But yeah, that's probably the most specific response you're gonna get without actually posting a hand to analyze.
 
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Definitely general questions as there are way too many factors involved. If you are talking about the rare occasions when you are making a stone cold bluff just to try to steal a pot (no semi-bluff or middle pair, draws, etc), I would say no matter the game type, or chip stack, you need to know what you are getting yourself into and have thought through your next play.

By that I mean know before you place your bluff bet what you are going to do if your opponent(s) call or raise. Are you prepared to re-raise or fold if he raised your bet? If he calls, will you be checking the next card? Betting strong? Insta-pushing & Going All-In? Just have your play planned out and be prepared for the opponent to flip over the nuts if you take it too far.
 
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Apparently since you have to ask...my first advice is to do a lot less bluffing unless you have a good read on the situation or the player and have a good probability they will fold. Just because someone checks does not mean they are weak especially if it is at a table with a lot of LAG players. Not directed towards you but i think this trendy raise and reraise crap often while players are holding a marginal hand or nothing at all has gotten way out of hand..but hey if it pays a couple of bills ill quit crying about it and keep collecting. With a general question like this kinna hard to answer, but in general if it works keep doing it and if it doesnt change it or do it less.
 
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I always have a problem with bluffing when people check i fire out numorus bullets to my opponets what should i do to make my bluffing more valuble to myself?

Is he ever folding?

How often does he fold here?

If I bluff, what hands am I representing?

Is he a thinking player that will interpret my bluff as a value bet w/ the above hands?
 
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Not vital in micro stakes, they won't put you on a hand but play their own hand.

Sure.

But, that's not a good enough reason to "dumb down" our own play. Especially, if we feel like we fire too many bullets. In that case, it's good to look for reasons NOT to bluff.
 
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I always have a problem with bluffing when people check i fire out numorus bullets to my opponets what should i do to make my bluffing more valuble to myself?
1) Learn what spots are high percentage bluff spots.
2) Learn to hand read.

All this "rarely bluff" crap is really hilarious.
 
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1) Learn what spots are high percentage bluff spots.
2) Learn to hand read.

All this "rarely bluff" crap is really hilarious.
Heh. Especially in MTT's. Bluffing well is a nice skill that players who consistently get deep all have.

I said this in the general advice forum's thread on bluffing: Look into articles/videos on c-betting. Very often your c-bet is a thin bluff; learning how to c-bet well will give you a feel for discerning good spots from bad ones.
 
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Very often your c-bet is a thin bluff; learning how to c-bet well will give you a feel for discerning good spots from bad ones.
There's not much thin about it. If you c-bet half pot, your bluff only needs to work 33% of the time (you're risking 0.5P to win 1P). Most players fold to c-bets more than 50% of the time.

So while I agree with you that c-betting is a great spot to bluff, I disagree with you that its thin. C-betting is a big fat giant source of edge, and if you're not c-betting at least 55% of the time, you're doing it wrong. Most players c-bet around 70%, and knowing which 70% to c-bet is the key.

Btw, no one fires "numerous bullets" except maniacs. If you've raised preflop, and bet all the way to the river, your opponent's range is going to rarely have hands worth folding in it. Hence why hand reading is important. The #1 thing to consider when bluffing is "does my opponent have hands in his range he will fold?"
 
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There's not much thin about it. If you c-bet half pot, your bluff only needs to work 33% of the time (you're risking 0.5P to win 1P). Most players fold to c-bets more than 50% of the time.
Not exactly what I meant by "thin bluff". I meant that often times you won't technically be bluffing out a lot of hands that have you beat, so the value of the c-bet (as a bluff) is thin. The value in collecting the dead money already in the pot is quite high however.

Uhh...so it's a semantics thing I guess :)
 
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Bluffing guidlines for Mirco's
Cash game? Bluff rarely.
SNG? Don't bluff.
MTT? Bluff very rarely.
Never really knew notice before.... stupid of me not to notice. thank a lot
 
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