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smellikerurx

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What would you do? In the big blind with about 40 big blinds. The small blind min raises leaving him with about 6 big blinds. you Have pocket 5's. Small blind has only been at the table for about 8 hands, and is playing tight.

I ended up putting him on pretty good Ace. AT or better. I put him all in and he called showing pocket 8's. and I lost.

Next what would you do?

you have about 10 bb left and in the big bind. folded to the button who goes all in with about 3.5 bb. Small blind folds you look at 9 6 suited. How would you play this?

I called, she flipped over J 2 suited, hit the jack and I lost.
 
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I am assuming cash game.

I'd think long and hard about why you put him on a 'pretty good Ace. AT or better' You haven't seen enough of him to know his style and the min raise could mean anything - a steal with any two cards or a little tempter with a big hand. I'd also think about what you want your reraise to achieve - is it a resteal or do you want a call? If you want a call then I don't think it is a good play as you are not going to be any better than 50% to win and often you are 20% (as was the case). I would probably have called the bet and seen the flop - a 5 and it's easy, but there are a thousand ways to win the pot even if you don't hit.

In the second scenario you are folding all day long. Again, about all you beat here is a stone cold steal with two undercards - the fact it was a steal shows what a bad call it was as you are still 45/55 dog here. 96s is a perfectly good hand to pay to see a flop with, but you need to be able to play it well postflop. 96s is awful for calling all in.

I wonder if there is a problem with your approach here, in as much as these plays look quite tilty. The '10bb left' statement suggests to me that you have lost a load of chips and are just tossing the last few in hoping to get lucky. Also you say she 'hit the jack' as if you are on some run of bad luck - she didn't need to hit anything, you did.
 
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The_Pup, it's a tournament. Look at the stack sizes. ;)


Smellikerurx,
I'm not much of a tournament player so don't take what I say as all that reliable, I'm only answering because no one else has.
There's no way you fold here, you're paying 1bb into a pot of 3bb and if you hit you get another 6bb. I really can't see the SB going anywhere and is shoving any flop. If you miss the flop you're ahead of 22-44 and any face cards that missed, if the flop is low then call/shove, if there are a ton of face cards, fold.

Putting him all in pre-flop, I'm not sure about. You've got almost 0 fold equity, and are basically a coinflip against his range. Shoving is better than folding but I'd call and see a flop.

In the 2nd question, your opponent's range is wide here. I don't know why they didn't go all in with any two when they had the BB, but now they're the button and against only the blinds, they're shoving a really wide range. 96 is getting odds to call against just about anything here, I checked pokerstove and you're still 34% against a top 25% range (and your opponent is pushing a LOT wider than that, 40%+).
 
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What would you do? In the big blind with about 40 big blinds. The small blind min raises leaving him with about 6 big blinds. you Have pocket 5's. Small blind has only been at the table for about 8 hands, and is playing tight.

I ended up putting him on pretty good Ace. AT or better. I put him all in and he called showing pocket 8's. and I lost.

Next what would you do?

you have about 10 bb left and in the big bind. folded to the button who goes all in with about 3.5 bb. Small blind folds you look at 9 6 suited. How would you play this?

I called, she flipped over J 2 suited, hit the jack and I lost.

In scenario 1, I don't think that you can even begin to put him on a hand after only observing 8 hands of villian. That said, based on his stack and the play that was made before you, I think you almost have to put him on a hand that he wants called. If he wanted to simply steal the blinds, it's a shove and hope for a fold. His play was actually relatively strong because with a bigger stack it looks like a standard steal, but with his stack it's a pot builder with the hope that someone tries to stack him off with 2 random cards. I call or fold here, and if I call I fold to any post flop resistence, as 55 isn't even a marginal hand in this situation, despite the sb's dwindling stack. I'd rather give up 1 blind then double him up because I made a weak shove.

In scenario 2, I would tend to fold here. You don't want to be the caller in these situations. You want to be the one forcing the action. Although I advocate using an aggressive approach toward severly short stacks when you are deep stacked, calling with any 2 when you are also short stacked usually just makes you short stacked.
 
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I would most likely be too tempted to fold hand one, but i would definitely have folded hand two, 96s is just not playable against an all in... almost any combination of cards a person should be going all in has you beat, she flipped over J2, and she was ahead preflop... that should say it all.
 
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1st hand when in the BB with 55 i think im folding here.

almost 1/4 of your stack to push him all in ..so to lose this wouldn kill you but it would hit your stack and effect it.

2nd hand im fold.. 6 9 are live cards more than likely...but...nah..i wait for a better spot and hand
 
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