Originally Posted by AlexandriaVP
I believe that in a way it does close the gap i consider myself a "skill" player and yet I am not very successful in freerolls because of the all-in preflopers it is nearly impossibloe to win with my "skills" when players are constantly shoving. Not only does it take some of my skill away and therefor close the gap it ruins the game your not playing poker anymore your playing bingo. people can say what they want but my edge, being a skill player, is reduced if not eliminated by the all'in preflop EVERY HAND for example i just got beat with AA by a 8-4 offsuit all in preflop
so i think that it closes the gap
that being said in onder to combat that i have to play higher stakes games if you want to play poker you have to play for money and not pennies lol dollars
I don't totally agree. I've been watching a fair bit of online poker on Twitch, and something that I hear a lot from the pro's is "picking your spots". What are those spots? Let's just say for example you are playing a 6 handed Hyper S&G (assume 500 chips starting stack, blinds going up every 3 minutes), the first orbit or two can be spent observing what the other players' tendencies are. Play a slightly tighter range until you get a feel for what they're trying to do.
Then, start attacking those spots, exploit what others are doing. Case in point, we were down to 4 handed when I picked up A8, which in a shorthanded game is pretty strong. I shoved all-in pre, as I was first to act. I got called, as expected by the chip leader with 82, and I won the hand.
I'd rather shove A8 than call with A8, and would definitely NEVER call with 82 unless the situation was something like this.
I'm up against one opponent in a hand and they are so short stacked that if I were calling, I'd be committing such a tiny percentage of my stack.
Learn shove/fold strategy. Find out what hands are good shoving hands, in what situations, and you'll find that more often than not, you're getting your money in good, but more importantly, you're reducing the instances where you're dominated.
Originally Posted by AlfieAA
no, bad players will never reduce the skill gap...because bad players don't have any skill to start with lol...its up to you as a 'skill' player to pick your spots based on what the situation is...just need to adjust and make good decisions...also, the games/stakes you play will affect what players play them...you will get a lot of shove fests in freerolls for example...not cc ones, but normal ones with 20k entrants...and at the lowest micro stakes...
and obviously the higher you go up in stakes etc, the better the player pool will be...that's something else you have to adjust to
think of it as a ladder process...first rung shovefesters.
I'm more inclined to agree with this, and I'm going to say this again, it's about picking spots rather than waiting for hands. Now, of course there will be times where you're going to get your chips all-in and your opponent is going to wake up with a big hand, but that's not going to happen enough of the time to cause you to lose money long-term.