Bad call?

Im wondering what the general thinking is in this situation. Im at the start of a large tournament, not even 20 hands in and i get A-K off on the big blind, a player with 42% vpip shoves all in from UTG, then the HJ thinks for 20 seconds or so and calls. For anybody thats not read my log, ive been busted and am trying to rebuild, this is in the daily dollar tournament on full tilt that i won entry into via points.

The blinds go up every 10 minutes, you have 3000 chips to start, theres 2500+ in already. The pot would be over 9000 if i call. My thinking was that the utg raiser probably has a pretty nothing hand, and the hj has a medium pair, 9's to 10's maybe, obviously wouldnt matter which. I made the call and the utg raiser had Q-10 off and the hj had pocket 10's. The board hit nobody and im out.

Do you think i should just wait it out or no? my reasoning for making the call was simply that if i hit i would be top 20 in chips / way ahead of the blinds. I could then afford to put pressure on others, or be more patient depending on the table.

Thanks for your opinions,

Paul

well, i normally would of folded, but too many of the good players here have me now convinced to push push push...
do you want to try and limp to the money, or have the big stack and win!

insta call

pokerstove say's AKos is just over 46% against two random hands.
the other two hands are about 26% each
provided they dont have AA,KK.
with these odds i imagine you are not folding here.
could someone do a proper analysis of the odds,
i would be interested to see that.
cheers gl.

Yea you should def. call this, your most likely going to have both players crushed or be flipping and this will give you a big stack to work with for a while. If you get unlucky then oh well, but i think this is a great spot to build a big stack early in the tournament.

I would call in this situation.

tcummo said:

pokerstove say's AKos is just over 46% against two random hands.
the other two hands are about 26% each
provided they dont have AA,KK.
with these odds i imagine you are not folding here.
could someone do a proper analysis of the odds,
i would be interested to see that.
cheers gl.

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Correct me if I wrong, I usually am. If he's getting 3 to 1 he Only needs 33% equity in the hand to call and he has 46%, so we have an easy call right?

KidVicious said:

Correct me if I wrong, I usually am. If he's getting 3 to 1 he Only needs 33% equity in the hand to call and he has 46%, so we have an easy call right?

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Except these players' hands aren't random hands.

FWIW I'd call here, we're probably up against a pair of queens or less, and the other playing holding something like AQ/KQs/small pair.

Pokerstove says AKo against JJ and 88 is 36% to win. AKo against JJ and AQs is 32.5%. Even AKo against KK and JJ is 25%.

We're basically never in bad shape unless one of them has aces. The wider range of hands we assign these guys (eg, AJ, AT, JTs, small pairs) the better it gets for us as well.

I've actually played that donkament a couple of times & was amazed at how bad the players get it in.. & huge pots in early levels. I found that you could 'wait' & pick your spots & get paid off huge!! (ie flop top set & valuetown them & get paid off by unreal junk... ie. have others reraise allin on turn with a gutter, call off with BottomPr. topkicker, etc. etc.). For this reason I 'might' fold in this spot here with AK & two in ahead (if this was a tournament with good players & in early levels, 100+bb's deep & I opened with AK.. got 3bet.. then a 4bet, I'm folding this all day long... in the Daily donker you might be in good shape... just thinking though that you can actually wait for Great spots in that tourney because the players are just soooooo bad).

As far as the thinking > put pressure on them in early levels now that you have 9,000 chips. I think this is flawed. Players in that tourney are sooo f'n loose that nobody's folding ever. In later levels for sure because generally speaking these types are loose as fk in early levels & then way too tight in later levels.

cliff notes:
If I had multiple entries it's a snapcall
If I had a small bankroll with one entry (& am hoping to work on increasing my roll).. I would fold.

What he said ^^^^^^^^^

Early in the tournament if you are single entry, I wouldn't call. This is a hand I would raise all in with but not call here.