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Hey all,
I need some suggestion regarding restealing from the blinds.
observe late positioners who 2bet a lot and their response to 3bets.
1) Can we resteal from early position raisers?
2) can weresteal more effectively from the SB than from the BB?
3) can we resteal with ATC or wait for decent hand ?
4) how big bet sizing of a 3bet to resteal with?
5) are we prepare to fold to a 4bet ?
6)are we prepared to play postflop on a flat call?
 
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Hey all,
I need some suggestion regarding restealing from the blinds.
observe late positioners who 2bet a lot and their response to 3bets.
1) Can we resteal from early position raisers?
Yes
2) can weresteal more effectively from the SB than from the BB?
No
3) can we resteal with ATC or wait for decent hand ?
Yes and yes
4) how big bet sizing of a 3bet to resteal with?
As small as we think can work.
5) are we prepare to fold to a 4bet ?
yes
6)are we prepared to play postflop on a flat call?
It depends. I would rank our options like this:
1. c-bet the flop, and give it up if it doesnt work
2. check-fold
3. get creative
 
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only bridge

I like your advice but what is ATC?
thanks
 
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No you can't re-steal from EP raiser barring a read that he is opening wide and will fold under pressure. For starters the clue is in the name. You are stealing from someone who was attempting to steal. Someone from EP generally raises for value, you are not re-stealing but spewing chips if yo udecide to make spewy moves against unknowns.
 
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Hey all,
I need some suggestion regarding restealing from the blinds.
observe late positioners who 2bet a lot and their response to 3bets.
1) Can we resteal from early position raisers?
Generally no
2) can we resteal more effectively from the SB than from the BB?
Not really
3) can we resteal with ATC or wait for decent hand ?
if it a steal the cards don't paticularly matter that much. If you have a decent hand raising isn't really stealing. I personally prefer to do it with things like suited connecters where I at least have half decent equity and unlikely to be dominated.
4) how big bet sizing of a 3bet to resteal with?
Whatever you think maximises FE balanced with what risks least chips. There is no magic number as it varies from situation to situation
5) are we prepare to fold to a 4bet ?
yes, unless you know for a fact they 4-bet light and you can shove, that situation will almost never come up and you should nearly always fold, especially at micros where 4-bet bluff does not appear in msot peoples armoury (well it shouldn't because not enough people 3-bet bluff to make 4-bet bluffinh worthwhile against randoms)
6)are we prepared to play postflop on a flat call?
Depends on stack sizes/flop texture, villiands post flop play etc etc.
 
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Hey all,
I need some suggestion regarding restealing from the blinds.
observe late positioners who 2bet a lot and their response to 3bets.
1) Can we resteal from early position raisers?
'it depends'
2) can weresteal more effectively from the SB than from the BB?
3) can we resteal with ATC or wait for decent hand ?
Yes, but depending upon stack sizes & there's greater likelihood of villain calling, you're better off to do so with something that at least flops decent (ie. suited gappers & suited double gappers).
4) how big bet sizing of a 3bet to resteal with?
what 'onlybridge' said.... &.. it depends on how deep the stacks are
5) are we prepare to fold to a 4bet ?
Yes. but again it depends on how deep the stacks are... ie. we don't want to be 3betting a <30bb stack as we'll be likely priced in to call their shove
6)are we prepared to play postflop on a flat call?
Yes but 'it depends' ;)
 
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Hey all,
I need some suggestion regarding restealing from the blinds.
observe late positioners who 2bet a lot and their response to 3bets.
1) Can we resteal from early position raisers?
Yes
2) can weresteal more effectively from the SB than from the BB?
No
3) can we resteal with ATC or wait for decent hand ?
Yes and yes
4) how big bet sizing of a 3bet to resteal with?
As small as we think can work.
5) are we prepare to fold to a 4bet ?
yes
6)are we prepared to play postflop on a flat call?
It depends. I would rank our options like this:
1. c-bet the flop, and give it up if it doesnt work
2. check-fold
3. get creative
1) i find it more difficult if not impossible to resteal from EP raisers. Unless the EP is a habitual stealer I think is still tough resteal from EP raiser. I like to resteal from a lone raiser starting from hijack position to the btn.
2)Why cant we steal more effectively from the SB? I think it more believable we actually have a good starting hand to the BB and BTN /CO/HJ stealer. No one really expects a 3bet from the SB usually its the BB...thus more believeble that the 3bet is not light.
5) yes agree I will fold to 4bet most times cause most times with restealing its really ATC.
6) Flating a 4 bet? yes agree is really depends.....most times I fold but calling with something like sc or low pairs might work if I have a deep stack and confident of my postflop play. Of course 5 bet/shove is a no brainer if you have anything like QQ+ .
3) Yes agree. Can Resteal with decent hand or ATC .....what happens next ...then look at #5 or #6 if 4betted into
4) betsizing .....i say 2.5-3x the 2bet raise ... a minbet invites a call IMO. I think you cant resteal shortie if the 2.5-3x reraise makes them pot committment
 
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