Another Sit n Go Query

Ive recently moved up to 10man sitn go $10 buy in. I just feel like its harder to win here though, not because the players are better just because they give absolutely no action.

it always seems nine players are left at 75/150 blinds with more or less the same stack they started with which is the equivalent to 10BB, so its just jam or fold poker.

I feel i either get the cards and win, try to steal blinds suck out and win, get sucked out on and lose or jam in late position and get called by the blinds who dominate me.

I just keep yoyoing up and down regards to winning and losing keeping my bank roll the same.

Does anyone have any advice? Does anyone else feel this? Am I going wrong somewhere? Should i play 6man tables? Lastly is that Colin Moshman book worth buying or is that why everyone is playing similar??

Any advice would be much appreciated

it always seems nine players are left at 75/150 blinds with more or less the same stack they started with which is the equivalent to 10BB, so its just jam or fold poker.

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so why you can not keep the same stack like them,do they only play just when they hold like AA KK?then if it is not the card,they will all fold? i never play 10 players sit go before,maybe a stupid ways to solve the problem is just learn their play style just in that sit go.

Collin Moshman's book is well worth buying!

Where are you playing?

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I just feel like its harder to win here though, not because the players are better just because they give absolutely no action.

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I would argue the fact the players are giving less action would actually indicate the players are better!

For you to regularly get to 75/150 with 9 players remaining seems slightly unusual for regular games. I've never played at Pacific so can't comment on the quality of play there but I do play at the $10 sit n gos at Full Tilt and there are rarely that many players left at this stage. I don't know how many games you've played at this level yet but you might just have run into a unusually tight set of games and if you continue you'll hit looser play soon enough. There are plenty of fish at this level.

But... when faced with an extremely tight table you will need to adapt your strategy. Mainly by loosening up. Look to widen your normal stealing range in the mid stages of play. Your fold equity increases with tight opponents and you're also looking to double ASAP if possible. I think in very tight games, when you hit the mid-blinds and there are many players left you're better off either doubling up soon and building a healthy stack, or busting out early trying. It's preferable to passively blinding out with all the other nits. Then it really will become a crapshoot.

Haven't read Moshman - but everyone on here swears by it.

I used to play at Pacific but now I play at PKR just for the reason that i think its funny with the characters. Most players IMO on the site play upto the $10 games, any higher than that are either double up games or 6 man sit and goes.

I feel the competition is tight aggressive intermediate players at the $10 tables, hence the reason why it pretty much becomes a game of chicken because nobody is playing.

Do you recommend changing sites maybe?

Even though the recommended strategy is to play tight at start i tend to play loose to bust tight players, however if i dont hit i tend to have 800 chips left by the 75/150 hence an easier allin call with a medioce if i shove. I know what your saying in the mid stage when you should double up or bust, but its hard when your the only one doing it and the the remaining players are trying to pick you off.

I heard that the Moshman book was for math wizards?

I was also going to buy Arnold Snyders 1st book on tourneys as people says its genius. My local casino is like a $40 freezeout with 30min blinds which this book is meant to suit?

Collins book is definitely not for math wizards or I would have gotten nothing from it. It would be well worth whatever you pay for it - look at Amazon and see how much it is.

It will really help you with your early and middle game struggles.

Good lord, a monkey could make money playig sng on PKR, if you read a quarter of moshmans book, you will absolutely crush any level on there.. Kinda hard to find games past $20, though.

I would possibly consider changing sites. You can't go wrong at the 'big two': Full Tilt or pokerstars. It won't make you a better player, and I doubt you'll find the play particularly easier but they're great for too many reasons to list here.

Can I ask how long you've been playing and at what levels? You mention that you've recently moved up to $10. Had you consistently beat lower levels over a decent sample size? If not, it's perhaps better to move back down a level or two and really learn the game from the ground up. If you have been beating, say the $5, then the jump to $10 isn't huge.

It's not a bad strategy to play loose in the early levels against tight opponents, and it's difficult to really comment in depth without looking at your game in detail, but the following sentence is perhaps a little worrying:

"i tend to play loose to bust tight players, however if i dont hit i tend to have 800 chips left by the 75/150"

This might suggest that you're spewing too many chips in search of that set, straight or flush. Playing a controlled LAG approach aggainst tight opponents is a difficult thing to pull off and if you're consistently getting to this stage of tourneys with so few chips then there is probably a leak in your game somewhere.

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Hey Spillage well ive been playing on and off for about 3 years now.

When I first started playing for money on Pacific i lost about $100 or so, however as i started to learn i eventually brought it back to profit $7 (I found this out on sharkscope which Ive recently found out about). I was playing $5 games on this site.

I then stopped playing really for a while due to work but now and again played at my local casino with mates.

However a couple of months ago i decided to put $25 on PKR and have managed to get it upto $250. I started playing $3 sit and gos then $5 and recently $10 where ive been breaking equal really.

When I play loose in early I think i mainly spew my chips off by:

theres a passive limper UTG who plays Axs/AJ/KQ and doesnt want to raise, some one in middle position raises X4 BB, so Im on button and see 76o. I like to call with these hands in position because i feel i know the passive player UTG will call giving me better implied odds if i hit. However as we know you rarely hit and if i do manage to flop something like A85 i dont want to call a cbet but i dont want to jam because i know one of my opponents will call with TPWK/TPGK. Is this what you mean by 'Controlled LAG' and spewing chips?