Poker Orifice
Fully Tilted
Platinum Level
Your question isn't anywhere close to being specific enough.
Things to consider:
stack sizes compared to blinds (stack sizes of all players)
do we close out the action
history/reads
stage of game (ie. is villain shoving wide during bubble play, or closing in on bubble in an MTT)
Saying something like 'we have 1/2 as many chips as villain' is meaningless without knowing specific stack sizes & size of blinds.
Things to consider:
stack sizes compared to blinds (stack sizes of all players)
do we close out the action
history/reads
stage of game (ie. is villain shoving wide during bubble play, or closing in on bubble in an MTT)
Saying something like 'we have 1/2 as many chips as villain' is meaningless without knowing specific stack sizes & size of blinds.
needaGF
Rock Star
Silver Level
I just want to get a general idea. I was lazy to imagine a scenario and type it. If you think this is a problem, just leave this post...
absoluthamm
<==Poker Face
Silver Level
There really is no "general idea". If you don't want a real answer and just bonehead opinions then don't give specifics. If you want answers backed with reasoning, then give specific scenarios.
Your question could be on the second hand of a SnG and villain doubled up on the first hand when all-in with someone, he would then have double your stack but is shoving pre UTG when blinds are 10/20.
Your question could also be at a final table where villain has double your stack, but you have double everyone elses and are in 2nd place.
Could also be a satellite at bubble time and you're sitting pretty...
Rule of thumb: Don't be a dick and tell people to leave the thread when they are only asking for more information to help you when you are asking for an answer that there isn't a clear cut one from how you posted the question. Especially from a member that has 100x more posts and experience than you have.
Blobweird123
CC's very own Dead Head
Silver Level
This ^^^ Every time a villain with a large chip stack goes all in he ends up having these on me!
Same goes for me though. I only go all in with these hands!
dadsrus
Rock Star
Silver Level
ya might find the deep stack doing this close to the buble as to steal blinds and keep the players scared of bubbling or losing half thier stack but as Poker Orfice stated ur question is to vague. Many possibilitys on way he would shove
Poker Orifice
Fully Tilted
Platinum Level
I know it's a problem because it's impossible to give a decent answer (unless you wanted a meaningless/lazy answer).
It's not problem to leave this thread though.
dj11
Legend
Silver Level
Several of us just watched a $30 buy-in tourney where one player was shoving every hand. EVERY HAND ! Mostly junk, but for a good long time he was in god mode and killed off several players, including our horse.
You can never tell, but you shouldn't be thinking you can take down the Chip Leader with suited connectors from the middle of the pack.
You can never tell, but you shouldn't be thinking you can take down the Chip Leader with suited connectors from the middle of the pack.
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kworm2013
Rock Star
Silver Level
my opinion,It is true that an all in from a deepstack player indicates a better hand than from short stack.If not,that man must have been crazy.
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only_bridge
Legend
Silver Level
Add 49s and 23o to the mix. Cause thats what they often have on my tables when they push 100+ bb's.
This is one hand I just played:
poker stars $5.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 2130669
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
SB: t2730 54.60 BBs
Hero (BB): t4155 83.10 BBs
UTG: t1835 36.70 BBs
UTG+1: t1850 37 BBs
UTG+2: t1385 27.70 BBs
MP1: t700 14 BBs
MP2: t4095 81.90 BBs
CO: t5035 100.70 BBs
BTN: t1500 30 BBs
Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with J :club: A :club:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t50, 3 folds, BTN calls t50, SB calls t25, Hero raises to t4155 all in, 3 folds
Final Pot: t200
Hero mucks J :club: A :club:
Hero wins t200
This is one hand I just played:
poker stars $5.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 2130669
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
SB: t2730 54.60 BBs
Hero (BB): t4155 83.10 BBs
UTG: t1835 36.70 BBs
UTG+1: t1850 37 BBs
UTG+2: t1385 27.70 BBs
MP1: t700 14 BBs
MP2: t4095 81.90 BBs
CO: t5035 100.70 BBs
BTN: t1500 30 BBs
Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with J :club: A :club:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t50, 3 folds, BTN calls t50, SB calls t25, Hero raises to t4155 all in, 3 folds
Final Pot: t200
Hero mucks J :club: A :club:
Hero wins t200
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PLAYINBIG
Legend
Silver Level
If a big stack pushes all in & there are 2 peeps left to cash out,I'm folding.This happened to me in a tourney last weekend.They were 2 more peeps to go until everyone finished the tourney and received a ticket to a cash tourney.The big stack pushed all in against my mid stack.I was holding pocket 9's and had raised 3 x bb preflop .The big stack then pushed all in preflop.After the game had ended I asked him what he pushed all in with.He told me 7/2 then I told him I had pocket 9's.Any how I thought I made the right choice to fold but also told him He played a gg.
needaGF
Rock Star
Silver Level
Oh i believe there is a misunderstanding. I just want this post to be deserted since I don't give any specific scenario which I realize a mistake. I did not mean any offense. Sorry for that.
needaGF
Rock Star
Silver Level
Oh I am really very very sorry. I really did not mean any offense... I just want this thread to be deserted since I should not ask for a general idea here without a specific scenario...
I checked my words and find them really impolite. Trust me it's not what I wanna say...
JohnBoyWWFC
Grindddddd
Silver Level
Huh?
dadsrus
Rock Star
Silver Level
respect (most wouldnt say sorry )
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bremensha
Rock Star
Silver Level
Just a general advice
A big stack is making raises so that you have to take the decision playing for your whole stack or tournament live.
Calling or raising a substantial part of your stack means you are more or less comitted.to put in the rest of your stack. Therefor you either have the chance to fold or to put in your whole stack.
Being the odds roughly about 1:3 having a hand good enough to play on this is a winning strategy for the big stack.
Shoving all in as a big stack if there are players w/ a substantial chip stack in the hand is in general therefor a strong but not a great hand (middle pair or AQ+).
A big stack is making raises so that you have to take the decision playing for your whole stack or tournament live.
Calling or raising a substantial part of your stack means you are more or less comitted.to put in the rest of your stack. Therefor you either have the chance to fold or to put in your whole stack.
Being the odds roughly about 1:3 having a hand good enough to play on this is a winning strategy for the big stack.
Shoving all in as a big stack if there are players w/ a substantial chip stack in the hand is in general therefor a strong but not a great hand (middle pair or AQ+).
absoluthamm
<==Poker Face
Silver Level
No worries, it just came off like you were asking a question, but weren't willing to accept advice or anything.
needaGF
Rock Star
Silver Level
It's my bad anyway. I should apologize.
needaGF
Rock Star
Silver Level
OK thx. Just forget this thread.