Aggressive Bubble Play

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I played in the .20 cent 20 dollar guarantee free add on last night on BetOnline. There were 81 total entrants I believe with Top 8 getting paid. The particular moment of interest happened on the first hand after the second break. There were now 12 players remaining. I was in the 10th position with approximately 28,000 and BB at 4,000. So action gets folded to the cut off who's stack is slightly larger than mine (I'm dealer). He raises to about 2.5 BB. Figuring he's trying to steal the blinds with a marginal hand, I re-raise shove with my Pocket Jacks. SB and BB fold, but cut off calls with KQ off. He hits a King on the flop and knocks me out. Did I make a bad decision?
 
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With your small stack easy shove, because you need build up the stack, that at the final table feel comfortable.. This is a very good chance, also we have fold equity...
 
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It the best hand to shove on buble with short stack because you nedd to raise up your stack for normal game.
 
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Yeah thats true. I just never feel comfortable playing it. I mean for all practical purposes, it is essentially a small pair.
 
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I would not consider it a small pair with when you are 7BB deep. Bubble or not, you should still go for chips and first places. Last ITM positions will not keep you in profit enough.
Jacks are still a pair, and you will get calls from many weaker hands and smaller pairs also, plus you have great odds vs AJ, AT, which are well in calling range.
 
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Well, you are slightly ahead over your opponent couple it with you being short stack.
 
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Probably everyone on your place did the same. Without the risk of not win the tournament.
 
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hi!
no,it was a very good spot to shove and push your opponent
with less than 10bb its an easy shove or even an all-in call with a hand like jj
better luck next time
 
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Agree with everyone...you have to give yourself a fighting chance or you just get blinded down and next thing you know you're all in with little hope...
 
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You have to go with the gut i would of folded im not saying you were wrong but late in the game players will play good starting hands big pairs and some will play suited connectors but at this point looking at the raise i have to fold the Js
 
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i would have played it the same way. what better hand would you be waiting for in a spot like this? by the time you would have been dealt a better hand to get action with that this you would likely have next to no stack because of the blinds.

You need a lot of luck to get through the final stages of the tournament because everyone's stack gets small compared to the blinds and everyone's range loosens up a lot because of this. which leads to a lot of flips. in such a situation pockets jacks will often to be the better preflop hand here.
 
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You got your chips in good. That's what is important here. You were ahead pre flop and that's all you could hope for being short stacked.
 
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You did nothing wrong. I'd be shoving my Jacks there all day, everyday. You got your money in, and put him to the decision. He decided to call and got lucky, Simple as that.
 
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We had to watch the previous hand with him. I would have done as well as you . I am sure that he was bluffing , and you have a couple of JJ. he was lucky
 
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It all depends on how often that player in the cut-off is playing and what his tendencies are. Getting your chips in good is important to an extent - but making the money is more important because CHIPS AREN'T MONEY, a.k.a ICM. So with that in mind if the cut-off is raising more than the top 12% of hands where you have a comfortable 60% chance of winning against his range (use equilab or pokerstove to figure this out), your re-shove is good in a vacuum ignoring the table. You also have to consider how often your opponent is folding to 3-bets. If he is more than 10%, your play is certainly good. If he is not, I'd consider folding JJ, especially if the table is in a state where someone else is likely to get knocked out. All you want to do is make the money here, not anything else.
 
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First, what is the reason for your shove?

Are you looking for a call?

Are you looking for a fold?

You said he raised 2.5 times, which at 4Kblinds would be 10K? Take his 10K, add the blinds and any antes and you're at 16K (assuming no ante)

You have 28K? So your shove would make it 18K more for villain to call? into a pot of 44K, give or take...making it an easyyyy call w/ KQ.

You have to take ALL factors into consideration. You mentioned he was stealing (or thought). What led you to this decision? I would have shoved the JJ's if and only if this person was a lagtard. Your chips have so much more value, deep in tourney, and near the bubble.

Always make sure there's reasoning behind your decision based on ALL the information you've been given.

Then again, I don't know what I'm doing :hmmmm:
 
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call and see the flop, for me JJ is good but not great hand, its tricky hand, especially in the bubble phase, money is important and reason for us to play
 
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in bubble i raise everyhand because im with no fear
 
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DangerBoy has some good advice. If the CO's PFR and Steal Attempt % are above around 10%, you can feel comfortable at around 60% equity. You have to remember that because of ICM so close to the bubble, you have to tighten up to show a profit. Without a HUD on BOL (there's only FPDB and Hold'em Indicator), it's hard to guess his PFR and Steal Attempt % but once you get a feel for it you can rest assured you made the right choice against his range in spots like that.
 
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