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You put yourself in bad situation when only 600 was bet on turn, even though its around 3.5 to one on his call and the spade is less than 1 in 5 to hit many players are willing to chase here. A pot size bet after the turn would have been the way I played it. Tough one though, he may have flopped a set and was setting you up for just that when he checked the turn knowing you raised him after the flop.
 
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He's certainly playing it like he was on the flush draw. I think the lay down is okay, but I would have bet more on the turn. You gave him too good a price to draw.
 
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So bigger bet on the turn, okay.

It's hard to know how much is really right though.

One could say, the kind of player who calls my turn bet would call a pot-sized turn bet as well.
However, at least I've given the flush draws more chance to play unsustainably.

One could also say by betting pot-size, I'll get more flush draws to fold... But, maybe I want them to call and miss for value. I wouldn't let their implied odds get there if they hit, because if it goes like this and a third spade falls, I like my hand a lot less...
 
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Turn bet is fine, leaves you with a perfect size river jam.
 
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Fold is probably reasonable here. Just overpair rarely wins such situations.
Only against some bluffing players, or during tournaments at some point I would call.
 
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You’re sitting with 70+BB so ideally an open raise should be $110, but I’m fine with the $100 in this case as we must alter the so called “rules” to the situation.

The BB calls OOP with what is most likely a loose but fairly tight range (i.e. two paint, K-10+, or any pocket pair), albeit I know nothing about this player. The flop is actually really good for your hand, as something like KJ would be in real trouble here. You’re opponent over bets the pot. At this point I need to know more about you’re opponent and judging by stack sizes I would say we’re fairly early in the tournament and you don’t know that much about him yourself. However, over betting is something I generally consider to be weak, however, if he had a set of sevens or two-pair (J 10 would be my fear here) he would likely make this play as well –then again it’s not much of an over bet; this is the key junction of this hand, all further decisions will be based on this one.

Personally, I don’t think I’m putting him on spades here, but that’s not to say you’re not beat anyway.

I do have one nagging question that I must ask – if you thought he was on spades and the turn is a non-spade; why didn’t you shove the turn? The pot was ½ the stack you started the hand with?

If you were beat here it was two pair, not the flush, in my opinion – I think I call the river bet unless I think he has two-pair but am not concerned with the third spade; he could have KJ, AJ, or a busted straight really easily and unless you got extremely unlucky I think AA is good.
 
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When he called the raise on the flop it lead me to think he had cards (as opposed to a draw). Was it top pair top kicker? The check-call on the turn kinda makes me think so. Either way, it's a tourney so you probably made the right call when you folded. You may have also just smooth called on the flop since you had position on him to see how hard he bet the turn? Like they say about pocket Aces...you usually win a little or lose a lot with them most times.
 
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AA all in, cant limp they will catch and the aces will mostlikely get cracked.
 
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AA all in, cant limp they will catch and the aces will mostlikely get cracked.

i did. got called with KJo. we were even in stacks. both in the top 10. im just wondering what possesses these people to call. he got a straight. i dont know what to do anymore :(:mad:
 
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i did. got called with KJo. we were even in stacks. both in the top 10. im just wondering what possesses these people to call. he got a straight. i dont know what to do anymore

While I have no idea what possesses people to do some of the things they do, both in life and at the poker table, I do know what to do; play poker – and realize that AA must lose 20% of the time; it’s not exactly rocket science!

If you’re opponent gets lucky, tip your cap and hope he comes back to the table! You got it in extremely good and lost; oh well, there’ll be another day; a day in which the same hand will work out far differently!
 
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i did. got called with KJo. we were even in stacks. both in the top 10. im just wondering what possesses these people to call. he got a straight. i dont know what to do anymore :(:mad:

Perhaps he didn't know you had AA...:p
 
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i think you payed well there...this guy was screaming that he was having a flush draw but we all should be aware of the fact that the most of players at poker stars are so willing to play all in right on flop with a flush draw especially on MTTs( because that's the way Daniel Negreanu plays)...this guy was just lucky to hit that spade on river
 
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You played it fine but I prolly woulda played it a little different. I would either call flop bet and then bet or raise on the turn if he bet again or I would make a bigger raise on the flop and then shove the turn.
 
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the way i would have played it too..i had AA and got an Ace on the flop and still lost when i called an all in against 78 and he got a flush. sometimes i think these ppl that call with rags have a hack software
 
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To me you would have to have played all your chips on the turn .. me in my house and seeing the flop shot the pair of Aces or crazy ..
 
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From Daniel Negreanu itself. Why to not get maried to your aces and why you should play 87 suited for example
 
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Shoulda bet more. It's ok, but, a hard one.
 
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u played the right way imo . a bigger bet on turn will not make him fold. He seemd to have a flush draw and high confidence to hit his flush.
 
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I don´t like the small $600 turn bet, but what can u do when they are chasing anyway. And sometimes even the flop can be insta-ugly:
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Spades or 89. Either way I don't think hes bluffing here very often.
 
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