a monster in tournaments, but a lobster in cash games

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Recently I have made it big at some tournaments, most of them finished in the top 20. But didn't endure more than 20 hands at a cash tables. Why does this occur? Well at first I didn't understand it neither, but through a painful capital lost, I started looking for information, until I reached this forum. Here are some tips from my experience:

1st mistake, competitive poker is agressive, but being aggressive is not always the key; i tried to be as agressive as in a MTT, but it's a way too different, players in cash games are not worried to reach a better possition, remember that.

2nd mistake, "I am leading the rake, i should re-raise preflop more often" :derp:. Not befcause you have more stock than the other players, means that you should raise in every chance. Personally I madethe mistake by re-raising regularly whith 3rd category cards, and that vanished my chips ;c

3rd mistake, keepcalm!. Sometimes when we lose a big pot with a strong hand such as a full house, we get greaking nuts, and we start going all in with just a pair or some crappy hands, do not panic, calm down andanalyze the table.

Hope it helps;)
 
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lecarlosgd said:
Recently I have made it big at some tournaments, most of them finished in the top 20. But didn't endure more than 20 hands at a cash tables. Why does this occur? Well at first I didn't understand it neither, but through a painful capital lost, I started looking for information, until I reached this forum. Here are some tips from my experience:

1st mistake, competitive poker is agressive, but being aggressive is not always the key; i tried to be as agressive as in a MTT, but it's a way too different, players in cash games are not worried to reach a better possition, remember that.

2nd mistake, "I am leading the rake, i should re-raise preflop more often" :derp:. Not befcause you have more stock than the other players, means that you should raise in every chance. Personally I madethe mistake by re-raising regularly whith 3rd category cards, and that vanished my chips ;c

3rd mistake, keepcalm!. Sometimes when we lose a big pot with a strong hand such as a full house, we get greaking nuts, and we start going all in with just a pair or some crappy hands, do not panic, calm down andanalyze the table.

Hope it helps;)
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Well ive been trying to respond to this for 3 days but I am always above my damn 10 posts per 24 hours. Anyhow here goes.
Cash games are a completely different monster bud. The blinds NEVER go up, so you're playing VERY deep stacks of 50-150BB effectively. Also it depends are u playing online or live? thats a big difference. Live cash games are always full of donkeys. Online the players are much better. Since the blinds never go up, those old rocks just sit and wait for aces and kings and AK. Truth is in a cash game you're much more likely to be up against a better hand, as in theory you can be a lot more selective on when to call or fold, since it takes forever to get blinded away
 
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My advice is if you're good at tournaments, stick with those and play cash games at lower stakes, so it doesn't hurt your bankroll and move your way up if you start crushing them. You seem to already know how play MTTs, which need a very strong pre-flop strategy, so use the cash game experience to improve your post-flop play.
 
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If you play good tournaments continues with them, but if you want to play cash you'll have to leave many tournaments aside and devote to the cash
 
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Got the same problem. I think that, at my level (very low), players "care" about their stack a little more during tournaments (at least after the first hour) than at a cash-game table. And that suitsmy style of play.
 
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RE the first mistake. Tournaments and cash games start out about the same. Stacks with a hundred plus BBs. Nobody is looking to go all in pre-flop. But it doesn't stay that way long.

Rocks can play all night in cash games. Tournaments force a looser style of play. In many situations, you're just looking for a spot to get it all in. People shove light because they feel the pressure of the blinds and antes. Cash players don't feel that pressure. The money still has the same value, no matter the stack size.

So you're playing against a different kind of animal in tournaments. You need to adjust to the different motivations.
 
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Your almost always 50BB or less, short stacked, in MTTs. So getting your money in with just a pair is correct a lot of times.
When your playing cash games, you are usually 100-150BB deep, so you have more post flop decisions to make.
 
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