9max Turbo tournament rules

MoeJurphy · Jun 2, 2018

Hi fellow CC's,

I have taken some time away from forums and focused mainly on playing. After having some coaching over the past few months I have had some small success.

I feel like I understand the game a lot better than previously, after coming back to CC I have seen a lot of the same kind of threads within the MTT sub thread. I thought I would give my tips to 9max turbo MTTs, Specifically 180s turbos but can apply to 9max MTTs with a bigger field.

These are notes that I have taken from my coach during 1on1 coaching sessions.

Do's:

* Open bet size 2x as standard.
Open 3x sb vs bb
3bet 3x as standard
cBet 30% standard

* Flat in the sb lineur range suited QJ,KQ 89, 910

* Play with a wider range in early stages, everyone has such tight opening ranges at these levels.
3x open when 40bb+

* BB calling range tightens the bigger the opening bet size, 2x = wider than 2.5/3x+ = tighter.

* When big stack we can open all Ax/broadway/suited connectors/1 gappers when small stack sizes behind.
Midelling stack play tight and look for profitable spots.
Small stack -10bb play nash.

* Pocket pairs good for deep stack
middeling to small stack open from middle/late postitions not in early position.

* Raise often call less. When vs an open our range should tighetn dramatically from each positon.

* vs short stacks open limp from early position normally nuts 10% hands AJs+AQ+,99+,KQs+.
vs small stacks opening mid position, normally Ax/broadway they want to get in.
vs big stacks, opening with small stacks behind (-10bb) normally tight range (wanting to get it in).

* Open shove wide from Co/Btn/Sb, Recreational players don't call optimal, Regulars will so note your players.
Call tight, you can call wider from sb/bb depending on stack sizes/ action before all in.

Don'ts:

* Click back raise
* Play out of position

* Calling all ins light

Anyone with any comments or input is highly welcome as I am no pro and I am still improving so any weaknesses spotted would be great to hear!

piko_bianko · Jun 10, 2018

thanks for the info

I'll try this since it already fits my style of play.
My bets sizes are sloppier, so this might give me an advance in my play.

PuMa8818 · Jun 11, 2018

quite interesting, because of the translation is not entirely clear, but I'll study it in more detail) Thank you very much for the work)

MrTerek · Jun 11, 2018

good one Regs open 2.2 thats first
doest matter 20+ or 40bb plus they dont change oppening size 2.2
only one way to catch set is to be in later pos and be in multiway pot

kratos · Jun 11, 2018

MoeJurphy said:
Hi fellow CC's,

I have taken some time away from forums and focused mainly on playing. After having some coaching over the past few months I have had some small success.

I feel like I understand the game a lot better than previously, after coming back to CC I have seen a lot of the same kind of threads within the MTT sub thread. I thought I would give my tips to 9max turbo MTTs, Specifically 180s turbos but can apply to 9max MTTs with a bigger field.

These are notes that I have taken from my coach during 1on1 coaching sessions.

Do's:

* Open bet size 2x as standard.
Open 3x sb vs bb
3bet 3x as standard
cBet 30% standard

* Flat in the sb lineur range suited QJ,KQ 89, 910

* Play with a wider range in early stages, everyone has such tight opening ranges at these levels.
3x open when 40bb+

* BB calling range tightens the bigger the opening bet size, 2x = wider than 2.5/3x+ = tighter.

* When big stack we can open all Ax/broadway/suited connectors/1 gappers when small stack sizes behind.
Midelling stack play tight and look for profitable spots.
Small stack -10bb play nash.

* Pocket pairs good for deep stack
middeling to small stack open from middle/late postitions not in early position.

* Raise often call less. When vs an open our range should tighetn dramatically from each positon.

* vs short stacks open limp from early position normally nuts 10% hands AJs+AQ+,99+,KQs+.
vs small stacks opening mid position, normally Ax/broadway they want to get in.
vs big stacks, opening with small stacks behind (-10bb) normally tight range (wanting to get it in).

* Open shove wide from Co/Btn/Sb, Recreational players don't call optimal, Regulars will so note your players.
Call tight, you can call wider from sb/bb depending on stack sizes/ action before all in.

Don'ts:

* Click back raise
* Play out of position

* Calling all ins light

Anyone with any comments or input is highly welcome as I am no pro and I am still improving so any weaknesses spotted would be great to hear!

You've been improving lately.This post of yours is for advanced players I think.I'm far from being an advanced player but ,this is my dream.First advanced then PRO.
Your infos are very usefull.

MoeJurphy · Jun 12, 2018

kratos said:
You've been improving lately.This post of yours is for advanced players I think.I'm far from being an advanced player but ,this is my dream.First advanced then PRO.
Your infos are very usefull.

Thanks dude

TeUnit · Jun 12, 2018

I like your rules, but I really think especially at the micro levels you may want to tailor your bet sizing to the villan and the relative stack size. At the first blind level a 3bb raise is too small and at 10bbs effective 3bbs is too big.

MoeJurphy · Jun 12, 2018

TeUnit said:
I like your rules, but I really think especially at the micro levels you may want to tailor your bet sizing to the villan and the relative stack size. At the first blind level a 3bb raise is too small and at 10bbs effective 3bbs is too big.

shouldn't we be using a standard bet size unless we are on the btn/blinds, using a 2x/3x every time depending on stack size gives us some kind of balance?

TeUnit · Jun 12, 2018

MoeJurphy said:
shouldn't we be using a standard bet size unless we are on the btn/blinds, using a 2x/3x every time depending on stack size gives us some kind of balance?

Not totally sure what you mean but, if you adjust your raise size according to stack depth you are balanced.

I am also advocating increasing or decreasing your bet size depending on the villan(unbalanced), but for this to be bad the villan has to be paying attention and they have to be able to exploit you. An example of this would be min raising the blinds who have 10bbs from the button because you know they are both uber tight and they are on the bubble- so you either pick up the blinds or they are going to shove over. If you raised to a standard 3x now they can exploit you because you are in a difficult spot with all the money in and you waste an extra blind if you fold.

colbear · Jun 12, 2018

Vs Small stacks late

Unless close to bubble I usually don't play them unless strong . They are waiting to push if you limp they push you have to fold as you don't want to chip them up . They are likely to call your push a little wider as they are blinding down so unless bubble or bubble+1 leave them alone . Just my opinion

zwbb · Jun 12, 2018

Good afternoon.
Thank you, the information is interesting.
But, it seems to me, do not play with a very wide range in the early stages of the tournament.
You can expand it in the middle stage, increasing your stack, and then in relation to your opponents with an equal stack.
I'm not sure if this is 100 percent correct, but I'm playing Imemo like that.

MoeJurphy · Mar 4, 2019

zwbb said:
Good afternoon.
Thank you, the information is interesting.
But, it seems to me, do not play with a very wide range in the early stages of the tournament.
You can expand it in the middle stage, increasing your stack, and then in relation to your opponents with an equal stack.
I'm not sure if this is 100 percent correct, but I'm playing Imemo like that.

In bigger field mtts yes you are correct, this information was specifically for 180 turbo MTSNG. And the wider range early on is because the general population in these games are playing super tight so we can exploit but opening our ranges up a little. But yes for big field mtts you want to play very tight early on.

tauri103 · Mar 4, 2019

Thank you for this information. It is always a good thing to reread and redocument on the basics of poker. When my level drops I always choose to watch youtubeur or switch poker videos to go up again, evaluate my style of poker. game, recognize and especially correct my mistakes. I too, I am much better since I arrived on CC with the advice of other members.

weezy1312 · Mar 4, 2019

its great to enter a game with a pre-defined range charts but dont forget to adjust it to the table you are playing in all game long.

MoeJurphy · Mar 4, 2019

weezy1312 said:
its great to enter a game with a pre-defined range charts but dont forget to adjust it to the table you are playing in all game long.

This is true, but you can’t really do this readless/with little volume. Otherwise you can find yourself making the wrong explosive play after only seeing a few hands.
It’s good to have a general strat to how the general population play and then make adjustment vs the regs you will see in these games often.

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