6MAX 1 table hyper turbo SNG

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guys, omg.
i started playing these hyper turbos the pas few days just for fun where 6 people start and the first two get payed. 1.50 buy-in, 2nd gets 2.96 and first gets 5.46.
starting stack 500 chips.blinds 2 minutes. the whole thing rarely lasts more than 6-10 minutes. ok heres the deal. i started this morning with 10 bucks and have turned them into 37 only from playing these back to back.

(i know 37 $ aint important but im trying to point out the potential)
no more cash for me for the meantime. i can really see myself making a good BR strictly from these SNG. everyone seems to be so passive and this leads to them blinding out so when they do call they usually have junk. ive played like 50 of them or smthng.
im not going to get into details but if you havent tried them out,they are really easy and profitable enough. if you win one,you get 3 buy ins for the next three . if u finish second in the next one this slowly and gradually inceases your roll.

i feel like a kid in disneyworld. cant believe i never bothered with these sit and goes. sooo easy.:icon_sunn
i love em.:biggrin:


i figure if i can turn the 10 bucks i started with into 150 or so,ill start the 3.50 buy ins and watch my money multiply at a faster pace.

anyone make any money on these? so i can keep my hopes up .
 
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Best of luck - how's your ICM?
 
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thanks man.what do you mean? how many chips i start off with? whts the value of my chips? i dont get what ur asking
 
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thanks man.what do you mean? how many chips i start off with? whts the value of my chips? i dont get what ur asking

Don't worry if you've never heard of it. ICM is Independent Chip Model, it's a mathematical formula for applying profitable push and call ranges during bubble play. Perfectly possible to beat the micro hypers without it, just use cEV instead.

You're right, people are far too passive in hyper turbos. Don't be afraid to minraise steal loads from the SB and button and don't wait for hands like everyone else.

have fun...
 
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pretty much waht luco said.

It starts to get more difficult at the next level (the $3 games i believe). then past that it's usually reg infested. Since your ROI is likely to be really low in these games, you need to make up for it by playing a bunch of them. so your multitabling skills are important in these games, more important than any other form of SNG really(unless you are multitabling differant formats).
 
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guys , only time i heard of icm i think is at the final table when people make deals. i might be confused .anyways doesnt matter. i came out first place in the last 7 out of 10 6mx SNG's that i played my roll is currently at 48.started at 10$ about 3 hours ago. i doubt the 3.50 level is gonna be any harder but even if it is,im sure ill do alright. i dont do more than 4 at a time since after that they get alil annoying for me and i lose focus..
so this is what its like to be a sitngo pro! jsut sit down all day and play sit and goes nonstop. i seriously have been missing out on the fun. playing cash on zoom all of 2012 never allowed me to ever look into any other game. ill keep you guys updated about how fast my roll grows. im sure by tomorrow ill have around 60-70 ish which aint no big deal but if you thin im playing 1.50 1 table sng's,id say its a pretty good ROI. for 1 day.!!
turning 10 into 50 or 60 is my goal for today.i havent misssed top two places more than 3-4 times the whole day.
 
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1:30 am 75 bucks. not bad
 
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These are STT right? ICM almost can not work at these games, or it suggests very little actually valid info.

Everyone starts shortstacked with fast blinds.
 
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These are STT right? ICM almost can not work at these games, or it suggests very little actually valid info.

Everyone starts shortstacked with fast blinds.
yea everyone starts with 500 chips and blinds increase every 2 minutes.

you wont believe i saw my name as 10th!! for the entire sites weekly STT leaderboard in the 1,50 stt category. im telling you im making really good ROI so far , started this morning with 10 bucks for a joke and now am at 75. never went down even once. break even at the worst.

and its not just rungood. im a pretty experienced player to know rungood when i see it. its just that they are really easy if you play aggro and i have played more than 60-70 today and i never saw my money drop once. if i add tables i could be making crazy paper.
 
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i don't even know where to start with this thread, so i won't.
 
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I really, genuinely want this to be a 'vinylspiros prints money' thread. Please keep us posted :)
 
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I really, genuinely want this to be a 'vinylspiros prints money' thread. Please keep us posted :)
its going to be man. i give you my word. im going to turn the 10 bucks into 500 in less than 3 weeks. im at 64 as im typing due to a minor drawback but im at 40+ buy ins for these and i started off with 5 BI. only one way to go and that way is up.only question is how much time i will need.when my roll is at 120 im moving to 3.50 buy ins and im gonna be smashing those cause ive become a STT master in like 3 days. so im hoping that at the 3.50's ill run good and when i hit 7$ STT's,im going to go to the store and order my ferrari in advance.!!! LMFAO:D :D
 
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day 2 3am. 77 dollars .im calling it a night. didnt go as expected .had some ups and downs. made a little profit. tomorrow im not stopping till its 120.
 
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just don't let your confidence deflate once you hit an inevitable downswing. And keep learning, no matter if you have played 100,000 games there are still things you won't know ;). confidence is great, but it usually only lasts as long as the first setback the player faces. best of luck :)





These are STT right? ICM almost can not work at these games, or it suggests very little actually valid info.

Everyone starts shortstacked with fast blinds.

These games are almost purely ICM from the get go. since you don't need to worry about postflop, you can almost solely rely on a solid ICM math based game. saying such things is pretty ridiculous without any knowledge of what you are talking about.
 
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You are riding the wave of running well and having fun but beware what Wiz said and do not get discouraged when the downswing happens because in poker it almost always does and hypers have massive swings.

I find these fun to play now and again but I have never really played many of them and if your the kind of person who lets poker effect your mood then be careful because they can tilt the hell out of you.
 
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just don't let your confidence deflate once you hit an inevitable downswing. And keep learning, no matter if you have played 100,000 games there are still things you won't know ;). confidence is great, but it usually only lasts as long as the first setback the player faces. best of luck :)







These games are almost purely ICM from the get go. since you don't need to worry about postflop, you can almost solely rely on a solid ICM math based game. saying such things is pretty ridiculous without any knowledge of what you are talking about.
thanks man. i certainly wont lose my confidence cause i have a feeling its one of the reasons im doing relatively well so far. and thanks for the advice. but inevitable downswing in STT ? i mean, how bad can it get when you risk 1,50 to win 5.50? even if you lose the first or the second ,all i have to do is win the 3rd and im practically break even. most of the time i make second or 1st. not cause im poker god or anything.its just cause i really have grasped the concept of the game. bubble strategy etc. i dont pick on too short stacks when i have a mediocre hand. i like to bully mid sized stacks .etc etc. anyways ,lets see how it goes. i dont see any huge downswing coming and this conclusion comes from my experience so far but HEY,ill be careful and defintely wont tilt.i have way too many BI's to even be worried atm for the current tables im playing. will be posting daily.
 
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You are riding the wave of running well and having fun but beware what Wiz said and do not get discouraged when the downswing happens because in poker it almost always does and hypers have massive swings.

I find these fun to play now and again but I have never really played many of them and if your the kind of person who lets poker effect your mood then be careful because they can tilt the hell out of you.
poker cant effect my mood cause im beyond that point longgggg timmmeee agoo. if my quads are broken from better quads,for me its just standard. anyways worst case scenario i lose 1 buck fifty. but Huge downswings in hyper turbos?
i cant relate to that but if you say so,im sure it must be true. just that im not worried about that since i havent experienced even a medium downswing. but letmme get some more volume in there and see how things turn out. im only playing 2 tables at a time to keep my mind sharp and aware of whats going on in each table. maybe thats why im not doing to bad.
 
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I have played those SnG's and yes it's a really good game. Seems like luck is even more involved then in turbo mode but it isn't. I had pretty much success myself but my blinds were even more short, only a minute blinds. If you are focused you can earn nice cash there in very short period of time but I am not sure are they exist on pokerstars because I played that kind of game on WiliamHill poker, never saw it on PokerStars.
 
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vinylspiros..

Remember..these games have HUGE variance. Even for good players, they can easily swing 100+ buy-ins regularly

Also; if you don't know anything about ICM..then I suggest you learn this before continuing because these games solely rely on that and you might be just running so hot a the minute, you feel it's irrelevant.

I don't want you busting your BR and having to start over, bear all this in mind when playing.

What is your bankroll btw?

Take on board what everyone has said imo :)

GL..keep us posted.
 
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...i dont see any huge downswing coming and this conclusion comes from my experience so far...

Your experience so far is limited. I know a hyper 'reg' who took them all the way up to the $100 buy in level and the very first thing he said was that 50 buy-in swings happen like all the time, even 100 buy in swings are common. The $1.50s aren't so swingy because most of the field are morons so your edge is much bigger.

Nobody in this thread is trying to kill your buzz and all you've had is good wishes from every poster, but you need to control your emotions in both directions to play the hypers - be cool when you're crushing, be cool when you're losing. you have to play the same whether you've won 10 in a row or lost 10 in a row and that's much, much harder than it sounds.

I really like WiZZiM's 'keep learning' comment. It's something for everyone to follow and will hold you well as you move up - in particular ICM as ram said.
 
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vinylspiros..

Remember..these games have HUGE variance. Even for good players, they can easily swing 100+ buy-ins regularly

Also; if you don't know anything about ICM..then I suggest you learn this before continuing because these games solely rely on that and you might be just running so hot a the minute, you feel it's irrelevant.

I don't want you busting your BR and having to start over, bear all this in mind when playing.

What is your bankroll btw?

Take on board what everyone has said imo :)

GL..keep us posted.
started off with 10 dollars .am currently up to 77. ill look into ICM right now just to have it in mind. 100BI downswings sounds nuts,but if you say so, i know u know what your saying so,ill try to avoid those with any cost, just have been forunate enough to not have experienced them yet. thanks for posting man.
 
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thanks man. i certainly wont lose my confidence cause i have a feeling its one of the reasons im doing relatively well so far. and thanks for the advice. but inevitable downswing in STT ? i mean, how bad can it get when you risk 1,50 to win 5.50? even if you lose the first or the second ,all i have to do is win the 3rd and im practically break even. most of the time i make second or 1st. not cause im poker god or anything.its just cause i really have grasped the concept of the game. bubble strategy etc. i dont pick on too short stacks when i have a mediocre hand. i like to bully mid sized stacks .etc etc. anyways ,lets see how it goes. i dont see any huge downswing coming and this conclusion comes from my experience so far but HEY,ill be careful and defintely wont tilt.i have way too many BI's to even be worried atm for the current tables im playing. will be posting daily.

yeah thats all great. to put it in perspective. when i was learning poker i primarily played the $3 games i played nearly 4000 of thm with like a 10%roi. I cant remember thw worst swing i had but i once played 35 games and only min cashed once. i thought i had a pretty huge edge on all the games i played there too. that was just turbo sngs(they didnt have supers then) so since you have a smaller edge due to the lack of postflop play and also the fact an aggressive novice can actually make a lot of correct moves. your edge is smaller ao your swings will naturally be bigger. as luco said im not trying to be a buzzkill but this game is really about learning how to constantly evolve. the gamea change and get better. the great players are able to recognize this and adjust. the people who think they know it all generally go broke or stay breakeven.

I know the $1 gamea are easy. but the rake is also high. taking ten dollars to seventy is greqt. just dont expect that to continue all the timw like a sure thing. poker just like anything takes a lot of work both off and on the table.

Hopefully this helps you. just an insight of what it takes to "print money"
 
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I don't think I have got close to a -100 BI runbad, but -50 BI's has happened several times.

It seems to boil down to JKo in middle position. ;)
 
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