-3Bet Range From The Small Blind-

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Hey everyone!

Which is your 3bet range from the small blind? What is your raise over the initial open hand-dependent?Last but NOT least which hands you 3bet with in order to balance your aggression? ? ?
 
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I think this range will be different depending on the limits. Low limit, low range. I dont know
 
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I think this range will be different depending on the limits. Low limit, low range. I dont know

Man I asked everybody's opinion no matter what limits they play. I want opinions from different stakes in order to compare and incorporates all this information in my game. So give it a shot.If you don't 3bet at all just read the thread and get better. You have to use 3bet IMO.
 
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The small blind is the worst position. For me worse than UTG. Only AK and AA-JJ.
 
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It depends on many factors: your peevous aggressoin on the table before,your stack, opponents stack and your notes on other players.Your hand is important too but you even can 3bet with opposite range to your opponents,it influences on your notes about other players.If u play on SB u can make 3bet counting it with formulae 3bet of open raise +1bb for every player in the pot with the monsters and aq+ 10s+ and suited connectors depends what players in pot.
 
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The small blind is the worst position. For me worse than UTG. Only AK and AA-JJ.
I agree with this arbor, but it's also possible to bluff on the iridescent flop, for example, to post a pot depicting a pocket pair and getting into a set. But there is always the risk of running into a good hand and Allin in response, so be vigilant))) watch out for the speed of the callback and reraise
 
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The small blind is the worst position. For me worse than UTG. Only AK and AA-JJ.

Same. Almost always I'm just 3 betting for value here, and you don't want hands that are tricky to play OOP. I'm still on basic 3 bet strategy though, no advanced tricks. Although at low levels that I play, it seems that balancing ranges is beyond most people and just ABC poker will work often enough.
 
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For me its premiums and weak Ax hands. You block an ace and you still have showdown value to a lot of calling hands on weak boards.
 
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I agree with this arbor, but it's also possible to bluff on the iridescent flop, for example, to post a pot depicting a pocket pair and getting into a set. But there is always the risk of running into a good hand and Allin in response, so be vigilant))) watch out for the speed of the callback and reraise

Many say that the only read in online poker is the time of reaction. I use it as well but if the guy is multitabling I always proceed causiously!! :)

I rarely 3bet in early stages from the SB unless I know that the opener won't fold and I have most of the times a monster pair. So I want to inflate the pot!

Actually I created that thread because the other day was Watching a poker video and the guy was saying that sometimes in order to keep his range balanced , sometime he opens with hands like J3s. ?!?!?!? and I was a little confused there.

I know that sometimes you have to 3 bet hands that won't overlap the openers holdings like 8T,45s etc and ofc Axs as you said[with the A blocker] but why something like J3s?
 
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I would 3-bet with anypair 10-10 or bigger any a-k or a-q,from small blind mid to late stage mtt,s-i normaly don't do much 3-betting early at least the limits I play
 
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3bet range from small blind is like AQ+, not really comfortable doing it with anything else from small blind, however if I'm playing with a bunch of tight passive players I would widen my range from that position so it depends on table dynamics
 
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This really depends on the position of the original raiser.
Obviously, you should give more respect to raises from earlier position. Ryan Fee's 6-max book gives some specifics, such as vs EP QQ+ and AK, but really loosening up against the button, more like TT+ AJ+ KQs as well as worse hands depending on how often the original raiser folds to a 3b.
 
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Excluding 3-betting with premiums for value (AK, 10s+), you really just want to 3-bet in the SB to take down the pot while giving yourself some equity if the original raiser calls. I usually 3-bet the very bottom of my calling range, suited broadways typically. Calling with those out of position is just asking for trouble but they are playable. If the guy is opening light, he'd probably fold. If he calls, you have decent equity against A10-AK and mediocre pairs. If he 4-bets, it's a pretty easy fold.
 
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What can be said in gerneral, the SB is the worst position to call, because the BB gets great odds and will call most of the time. Because of this you should tend to put your small sc into your 3bet bluff range rather than calling with a drawing hand OOP. Broadways that are too weak to 3bet for value can be called because those hands will dominate the BB.
 
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It depends... One if the initial raiser is getting out of line, and raising the CO or Button too often, I'll 3B a high % of my hands... if I don't pick it up then I'll usually precede with caution.

I like suited hands in this case.

If it's just to pick on someone who folds to 3b too much I'll do it with any 2 on occasion. But I'd prefer to do it with blockers with Ax hands and big broadway hands... but occasionally it's air.
 
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This really depends on the position of the original raiser.
Obviously, you should give more respect to raises from earlier position. Ryan Fee's 6-max book gives some specifics, such as vs EP QQ+ and AK, but really loosening up against the button, more like TT+ AJ+ KQs as well as worse hands depending on how often the original raiser folds to a 3b.

EP's opens tend to be the new stealing position in a passive table. I face it in the sng I play. I agree with you that the EP open should be more respectful but if the stack sizes are reltively small? Who is gonna fight back??
 
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Excluding 3-betting with premiums for value (AK, 10s+), you really just want to 3-bet in the SB to take down the pot while giving yourself some equity if the original raiser calls. I usually 3-bet the very bottom of my calling range, suited broadways typically. Calling with those out of position is just asking for trouble but they are playable. If the guy is opening light, he'd probably fold. If he calls, you have decent equity against A10-AK and mediocre pairs. If he 4-bets, it's a pretty easy fold.

Yeap agreed , the only drawback is that you have to be deepstacked in order to can affort those 8-9 bbs if the opponent 4-bets to you haha.. But is more effective way to induce some action there against a looser opponent.
 
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It depends... One if the initial raiser is getting out of line, and raising the CO or Button too often, I'll 3B a high % of my hands... if I don't pick it up then I'll usually precede with caution.

I like suited hands in this case.

If it's just to pick on someone who folds to 3b too much I'll do it with any 2 on occasion. But I'd prefer to do it with blockers with Ax hands and big broadway hands... but occasionally it's air.

What's your post flop play if you had 3bet with Ax in the SB and you hit your Ace on the flop.? That's a tricky scenario. You hit your Ace but you know that you may have get called from an opponent IP. You cbet that board?and how much?? Let's assume that the board's texture is dry....
 
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I agree, that this range will be different depending on the limits. Low limit, low range.
 
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I agree, that this range will be different depending on the limits. Low limit, low range.

Can you be more specific? What do you mean by that? You don't help the thread with this answer. Tell us the range please! :)
 
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It's very risky. In my opinion, it's better to play tightly from the small blind.
 
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depends on a number of factors... position original raiser, how deep u are, how he played aggressively before ..
AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQs.. my hand for 3bet
 
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