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Hi

I have been multitable like 2 tables at a time playing 27 player $3.50 sng on pokerstars but i am going on a downswing.

Anybody have advice for playing $3.50, 27 person sng on Pokerstars for a living or just to make a profit?? Also what style is the best for the slow structure vs the turbo's?

Is it profitable to multi table a super tight style at these stakes? Also how do you play freeflop at these games PLEASE AS I FEEL CONFUSED HOW TO PLAY POSTFLOP VS THESE PLAYERS AS YOU CAN'T MAKE MANY MISTAKES????

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Hi

I have been multitable like 2 tables at a time playing 27 player $3.50 sng on Pokerstars but i am going on a downswing.

Anybody have advice for playing $3.50, 27 person sng on Pokerstars for a living or just to make a profit?? Also what style is the best for the slow structure vs the turbo's?

Is it profitable to multi table a super tight style at these stakes? Also how do you play freeflop at these games PLEASE AS I FEEL CONFUSED HOW TO PLAY POSTFLOP VS THESE PLAYERS AS YOU CAN'T MAKE MANY MISTAKES????

Thanks in advance
There is only 27 players and i supposed its not turbo. so play tight you have time wait for your card. playing preflop and postflop depends on what card you have if you have a monster card you bet 5-6 bb if you have a small pair or smthing like suited connectors my advice is to flond out of position and call in the position
 
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Hi

I have been multitable like 2 tables at a time playing 27 player $3.50 sng on Pokerstars but i am going on a downswing.
The more leaks you have, the more and bigger your downswings will be, but it COULD be just variance coming to bite you, you only play 2 tables, so how many games have you played total? and are you winning overall in those games. Like, lets say you've played 100 games, don't even look at how you are doing over that 100 games, becuase it's too small of a sample, look perhaps after 500 and see how you are doing overall, i know it's a lot of games, but that's how many it takes at an absolute minimum to start to see your true results in your game. If you have played like 1k games, and your around 10% ROI but you are just hitting a downswing that took you from 15% to 10% then don't change anything or stress about it, you are likely winning it's just variance coming back at you a little bit.
Anybody have advice for playing $3.50, 27 person sng on Pokerstars for a living or just to make a profit?? Also what style is the best for the slow structure vs the turbo's?
slow structures you basically have more time to wait, but you need to be able to play postflop much better, to take advantage of the bad players more. So really, ideally a looser style should work really well, but it takes much more skill to be able to pull it off. SO i'd say don't be a complete nit waiting for the best hands, play reasonable cards, open up in position all that good stuff.
Is it profitable to multi table a super tight style at these stakes? Also how do you play freeflop at these games PLEASE AS I FEEL CONFUSED HOW TO PLAY POSTFLOP VS THESE PLAYERS AS YOU CAN'T MAKE MANY MISTAKES????
The idea of any SNG is to be able to play many tables at once, they are a volume game, and you can make volume when only playing 2 tables at once. However, it also takes much more skill to be able to play many tables, and you need to be able to automate your decisions, this only comes from experiance and learning what to do in common situations.
Thanks in advance

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the best is a pretty tight style with a burst of aggression when in position
 
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Hi

Thanks for your advice you sound like you know what you are doing.

100 games for me is allot as it's 100 buy-ins and thats about the bankroll i have.

So following your advice i want to try it, so i am going to begin from scratch and use the $350 bankroll
and play these $3.50 sng as much as i can. Also i am starting with 2 tables at one's and maybe increase to 4 see how it goes.
I am going to start playing a tight agressive style with 2 and the try playing 4 but as a nit/agressive style
and see what works best.

My question is do you think i should play 2 or 4 table's at a time with the strategy's i suggested in the paragrath above?

How do i play postflop, i am going to play agressive but how agressive on flop,turn and river??

Last question will 100 buy-in's be enough for the games? What if i go broke?

I have won some of the sng but lately don't reach final table anymore.

Thanks for your help
 
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Thanks for everyone's advice i really appreciate it.:D
 
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yeah well i started also playing the 9 man turbo games with around $150-$200. And yes it took a long time to play my first 500 games, but after a while you can add another table, then slowly add tables as you are comfortable and go from there. So within 6 months i was playing 10-20 tables at once, but it was a slow 6 month progression to get there, and it took alot of work and study to be able to play them profitably. But i basically purchased a subscription to a poker training site, and studied really hard for the first month i had the subscription. After that i just played and studied as much as possible with about a 50:50 ratio.

So your questions are not easily answered, i can't tell you how to play postflop, that is something you are going to need to learn yourself. But if you have specific questions about a hand, then post them in the tournament analysis section with as much detial and reads as possible. I would reccomend looking into a training site, i'm pretty sure dragthebar.com is now offering their videos for free, so that would be one to have a look at.

100 buyins should be enough, but it really depends more on your skill level and how much edge you have over the field in your games. By the sounds of it you are relatively new, so you likely will not have a huge edge over the field, meaning big swings are more likely for you. It also depends how much you tilt, like if you lose 50 buyins then take the other 50 buyins to a 50nl cash game you are likely going to go broke :)
 
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yeah well i started also playing the 9 man turbo games with around $150-$200. And yes it took a long time to play my first 500 games, but after a while you can add another table, then slowly add tables as you are comfortable and go from there. So within 6 months i was playing 10-20 tables at once, but it was a slow 6 month progression to get there, and it took alot of work and study to be able to play them profitably. But i basically purchased a subscription to a poker training site, and studied really hard for the first month i had the subscription. After that i just played and studied as much as possible with about a 50:50 ratio.

So your questions are not easily answered, i can't tell you how to play postflop, that is something you are going to need to learn yourself. But if you have specific questions about a hand, then post them in the tournament analysis section with as much detial and reads as possible. I would reccomend looking into a training site, i'm pretty sure dragthebar.com is now offering their videos for free, so that would be one to have a look at.

100 buyins should be enough, but it really depends more on your skill level and how much edge you have over the field in your games. By the sounds of it you are relatively new, so you likely will not have a huge edge over the field, meaning big swings are more likely for you. It also depends how much you tilt, like if you lose 50 buyins then take the other 50 buyins to a 50nl cash game you are likely going to go broke :)

Thanks again

I am new playing sng for profit yes but have been playing tourneys for about 3 years as a hobby/wannabe online micro pro one day.

Have not played/studied that often lately so i want to start putting in a huge effort. Why i am starting to post here. Will also start to post hands as well.

Been tough lately playing tourney, so though i play sng.
 
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it's all tough now. just know that being an low limit online pro is a true grind, and there's plenty of other jobs that will make you way more money with more satisfaction. But each to their own, but if you're gonna play online poker, you may as well aim high and try to reach the midstakes. If you wanna use it as side money/hobby then playing low level sng is a great way to make an extra $50-$100 per week.

If you are gonna make a huge effort, make sure you are studying the correct things. You can make a post dedicated to you getting better and i can give you a few pointers into what to study up on to get better if you want, it's up to you. But if you wanna start somewhere, look at three key things in sngs.

1. not spewing stacks in the early game, so that means playing relatively tight postflop and not going all in that much. especially vs known regular players, who will also be using a tight strategy like you. But work out who the fish are and maximise value vs them, especially early and especially once you get to the mid stakes and beyond that becomes really important to take advantage of the fish.
2. Look at how stack sizes affect each other in and around the bubble, and start to get into using ICM.
3. Make sure you are jamming and calling wide enough in all areas in the later game, when blinds get big relative to the stacks in play

There's way more but it's a decent start.
 
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I started to grow a bankroll, just after I stopped playing turbo tournaments at the micro-stakes. It is not surprising that you do not add up.
 
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