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anthony c

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Hey guys
I want to start playing the $4 180 man sng's on pokerstars but there are so many nits
and its difficult to win chips and playing loose gets me in trouble.
Do any of you guys play those and what stratergy's do u use?
I want to start with 2-3 at the time and see what happens!!!
I played a few but had trouble with it as i had no stack at any time:cool:
What are good spots to look for on these sng??
Any help would be great
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Thanks guys
much appreciated
No 1 play these sng cmon plz need help:musicus:
 
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since I am a nit, i will give you the best advice to beat me.
Tighten up your range slightly, but be more aggressive. 3bet more often but don't make it obvious. Give up when 4bet or shoved on. We are usually carrying the goods. Steal as much as they will let you. Rob'em blind. Sometimes they know you are robbing them but we can't find it in ourselves to call with J5o lol. Pound pound pound pound, fold to resistance.
ftr, this strategy will not work on me because i get dealt premiums every hand. I just fold to make it not look rigged.
SNGs, mini tournies as i like to call them. Pick your spots. Once antes hit blinds are worth stealing. Position, position, position. Steal it if you have to. show the nits some ridiculous calls and bluffs. Then tighten up.
 
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I am working hard to fix the same problem, as it tends to be the worst part of my game, especially after something bad happens to my chip stack. Or I want to win the tournament in the first or second level, when as the saying goes "you can't win a poker tourney in the first few levels, but you can lose one." Just be patient, build up your stack by trying to get in on reasonably priced flops and making the best hand or get it all in pre if you find a really strong spot. Don't worry about raising the blinds until the middle of the tourney when they start to mean something. One of the keys for me is to have something else going on while playing the early stages of the tourney. That way I'm not as thirsty for action, happy to fold so I can get back to the other thing I am doing, whatever that may be. Also you don't want to be trying to play a style that you see on TV or that other people might think is good. The important thing is to figure what works best for you and allows you to CASH. As the tourney progresses it is critical to watch closely every hand and learn all you can about your opponents, and take notes so you build up a database of info. This is as important as anything as it will tell you which decisions are best, like who to steal from and which players only raise with AA, KK or QQ, which allows you to call knowing if you can beat the few hands they would raise with you can win a huge pot, while the worst case scenario if you trust your information and have the discipline to fold A9 on a 9 high flop is you lose only what it costs to call. Another thing is not committing yourself to big pots when you are uncertain of where you stand. Don't start betting wildly because you raised the button with j10 and a jack comes. Try to keep pots small until you know you have the best hand, and don't be afraid to make a lot of small probing bets to figure out where you are as a way of avoiding big decisions with a lot of uncertainty.
 
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if you don't wanna play against nit's then don't play these $4.50 sng's. it is pretty much pointless to play a hand until you are in the top 100. because the blinds are so low and nobody's playing junk, bar some fish of course. once the antes come in to play, that is when the real poker is play. up until this point it is about survival. just play premium hands pretty much. as i said, once the antes come in, if you have a poker playing edge then you will be able to exploit the players at this stage. not early on when they are only playing Aces.
also, i find these tourny's amazingly boring unless they are running along side some mtt's. imo you should try play mtt's, or maybe mix them in and you could also mix in the $2.50 sng's. what is your starting br btw, if that's not too nosey. think the $4.50's are profitable but your end game has to be good as that is when people start playing poker as opposed to top 5% of hands early on haha.
 
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For all you nits out there i was only saying i hate playing against you
because you dont give your chips away so u are doing something good!!
Was nothing personal against nits but i dont see how it makes you win because
some of the players blind off to 10-20 bb in these and play something like
vpip04/pfr04.
I just wanted to know how to beat these 180??sould i play like you
or how to play the 180's sng
Got a $600 bankroll but i play mtt's but im running like crap so want to play
smaller sng's or cash.
What is the standard vpip for agressive but not to agro stats?
thanks
BTW Sorry guy not personal:musicus:
 
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play tight and keep your eyes on the blinds. If you get short and blinds are rising start stealing a bit wider or open shoving from cutoff button SB( depending on how short you are). Dont play junk at the beginning. Dont get bored. Keep in mind that alot of people are going to be playing 10 or 15 of these(multitabling) and are playing UBER tight so try to be tight yourself or your gonna end up losing.
 
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Do a thread search. There was stuff posted on CC recently including a 'guide' for playin' the 180's (which you'd be far better off lookin' at (then commenting on) then reading some of the bad advice posted here (ie. play tight.. cuz they're tight? wtf?)
 
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orite yeah that's a good starting br. if you feel you are running really bad you should simply stop playing for a couple of days until you feel confident again. imo if you are running bad/ good it doesn't matter about the size of the field. it is usually the same % of players getting paid in each tourny. cash games have little variance as you are so deep, so if you like cash you could play this for a bit until you are confident again.
imo even if you say you aren't too keen on playing mtt's i would mix in a couple at least. say the Big $4.40/ $5.50/ 8.80. maybe the $8.80 500 cap or $5.50 1000 cap as these don't have huge fields but good 1st prizes.could totally avoid turbos as they have greater variance.
the strategy for the $4.50's should just be the same as in any other mtt's which is play tight at the start, look for good spots where you are favourite and win the chips. loosen up as the antes come in and bubble approaches. then if you make ft keep playing a solid game and try accumulate chips from the shorted stacks as opposed to stacking off v another big stack with say 10's or whatever, something close, when you are 2nd in chips.
 
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Sit back and relax, as you might already know, play tight in the early stages, no need to get splashy with your chips when the blinds are very small. As blind's go up and ante's kick in you need to start stealing. Dont ever let yourself blind out to the point that you have less then around 10 BBs (you must have fold equity when stealing). Get a feel of the sort of players with you at the table, exploit nit's and hammer down the loose players.
 
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play tight and keep your eyes on the blinds. If you get short and blinds are rising start stealing a bit wider or open shoving from cutoff button SB( depending on how short you are). Dont play junk at the beginning. Dont get bored. Keep in mind that alot of people are going to be playing 10 or 15 of these(multitabling) and are playing UBER tight so try to be tight yourself or your gonna end up losing.

Pretty much what vinylspiros said.
 
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Do a thread search. There was stuff posted on CC recently including a 'guide' for playin' the 180's (which you'd be far better off lookin' at (then commenting on) then reading some of the bad advice posted here (ie. play tight.. cuz they're tight? wtf?)

^^^^^^

All i was trying to say is, don't get it in with junk because alot of people are waiting for premiums. Im not talking about stealing, im talking about calling shoves or getting involved with marginal hands.

We agree here? When someone is playing tight you dont want to be calling shoves light. right?
 
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early on these things are generally played tight. But later on get it in really loose at around the 25/50 stage onwards. you really only want to aim for the top 1-3 spots anything else is a waste of time.

you should always be pushing in these things and focusing on targetting the people concerned with their stack should be top priority.

The question you ask op is impossible to answer really. Ask more specific questions that you will actually learn from. If you ask general questions, you will get general answers that wont really help you learn
 
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Do you realise that to win you're going to have to play for five hours? I know that 'cos I came second the first time I tried.

Play just the one table and concentrate! The advice to play tight is good - but can you really fold the first 20 hands if necessary? Not many players can - if you can you've got the right mindset.
 
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Try only playing one and 2 group hands and be more tight while playing
 
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