[11$ mtt] ATs 20bb action pre

Villain no info. If I put a note I would write ABC TAG.
Hero fold and show AA on the turn vs c/r

Can anyone give me a valid reason to shove? I guess utg+2 3bet range crush mine (almost) always.
Thoughts?

poker stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds + t10 - 9 players - View hand 2525105
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BTN: t2788 M = 11.62
SB: t5955 M = 24.81
BB: t2167 M = 9.03
UTG: t3541 M = 14.75
Hero (UTG+1): t1974 M = 8.22
UTG+2: t3707 M = 15.45
MP1: t5632 M = 23.47
MP2: t6929 M = 28.87
CO: t3764 M = 15.68

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is UTG+1 with T <font color='red'>♦</font> A <font color='red'>♦</font>
1 fold, Hero raises to t200, UTG+2 raises to t488, 7 folds

fold i guess or call at best , dont shove this , if we use population tendecies as reads this 3-bet is supposed to be for value mostly with hands who crush you also the opponent will get an excellent price to call your shove.

Shove is simply wrong in that spot unless you have a specific read on the player which doesnt seem you do.

Tgen said:

fold i guess or call at best , dont shove this , if we use population tendecies as reads this 3-bet is supposed to be for value mostly with hands who crush you also the opponent will get an excellent price to call your shove.

Shove is simply wrong in that spot unless you have a specific read on the player which doesnt seem you do.

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Ok, thank you. Y saying this is a 3bet for value, I agree.

But btw this is NEVER a CALL here on 20bb depth OOP. Ever.

rdm4k said:

Can anyone give me a valid reason to shove? I guess utg+2 3bet range crush mine (almost) always.

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No.

... assuming villain is thinking, one could assume that villain would be thinking that you're raising here in UTG+1 on a ~20bb stack with a decent hand & is probably thinking that you'll almost never be folding to their 3-bet (much more likely begging (assuming/taking for granted) for you to commit with a 4bai ).

Think about it.... what would your ~ r/f % be in this type of spot?

just fold and move on, no big deal

fold he has A10 beat. If this was btn vs blinds fair enough but people never 3bet utgs light especially when there to your immediate left.

@wizzim @thatgreekdude

there's an official mtt reg thread.
May be interesting... isn't it??

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/tournament-poker-59/official-mtt-reg-thread-246833/

Without info I think it is an easy fold. Especially if you think villain is ABC TAG then there are no hands you're better againts in his range. So you're either dominated or you're fliping. Would definitely wait for a better spot.