you dare to fold AK offsuit after flop?

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early stages of tournament your pot is 2 times the starting deck(3K)
flop: T 5 4
BB raise all in(6.5K) by another player, 4 calls. no preflop bets
 
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Of course. You will fold if nothing hits, because usually when you raise you represent a big hand ( Aces, kings, queens or so, or AK AQ KQ ) and if you check the flop on T 5 4 your opponent will firstly ( if experienced ) think that you missed the flop, but you dont want to fold yet. I usually play after the flop, but I need to have something to hang on to. I usually small bet my opponent to see the turn then check/fold if nothing hits. AK is a strong starting hand but if you miss the flop you got nothing. He can beat you with pair of 2s. On that particular flop you can get lucky with runner-runner ( Jack and Queen for a straight ), so not neccessarily to fold, but if you miss the turn, river wont help a lot. So, I think you should have folded here, since he goes all in and you dont have anything so far. Wait for a better spot to call all-ins.
 
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TheNoobie said:
Of course. You will fold if nothing hits, because usually when you raise you represent a big hand ( Aces, kings, queens or so, or AK AQ KQ ) and if you check the flop on T 5 4 your opponent will firstly ( if experienced ) think that you missed the flop, but you dont want to fold yet. I usually play after the flop, but I need to have something to hang on to. I usually small bet my opponent to see the turn then check/fold if nothing hits. AK is a strong starting hand but if you miss the flop you got nothing. He can beat you with pair of 2s. On that particular flop you can get lucky with runner-runner ( Jack and Queen for a straight ), so not neccessarily to fold, but if you miss the turn, river wont help a lot. So, I think you should have folded here, since he goes all in and you dont have anything so far. Wait for a better spot to call all-ins.
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yeah, I folded
 
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AK big slick

I think Ak will get you into more trouble than any other hand.I can't tell you how many times I have gone all in with AK and got knocked out of a tourney.you have to see a flop with AK then if it hits make your bet,just my personal opionion.
 
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I think you should rename this thread "you dare to limp AK offsuit and wonder why you lost"
 
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tony4680 said:
I think you should rename this thread "you dare to limp AK offsuit and wonder why you lost"
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lol :D

Like tony said, it's a pretty basic thing... If you have AK you should raise pre-flop. I can understand the trap move, but if you miss it after ir you'll likely be folding after it.

Keep in mind that is Always better to be the agressor.

Hope that this helps you in the next AK you get.
 
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Sure, especially if it's early stages of the tournament. I'd fold it pre-flop too if someone had gone all in, unless it's a low stakes turbo.
 
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1. Raise AK pre
2. Dump AK in 5 way pot when you flop air facing 4 all-ins. No question about it
 
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badbcity said:
I think Ak will get you into more trouble than any other hand.I can't tell you how many times I have gone all in with AK and got knocked out of a tourney.you have to see a flop with AK then if it hits make your bet,just my personal opionion.
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Yeah its pretty easy to get caught up in AK. I personally view it as the single most overplayed hand behind jacks. Both though, will get you in trouble. AQ is right up there too ;)
 
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1. Raise AK pre
2. Dump AK in 5 way pot when you flop air facing 4 all-ins. No question about it


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What did the all-ins have? I'm guessing the first guy that went all in had JJ? What else was there? An A-T, 6-7, a flush draw? Did one of them hit a set?
 
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I agree with what the majority of the answers people have responded with on this post. Don't limp with AK early in the tourny. Offsuit or not. I'd rather shove all-in pre-flop and take a coin flip than to call any bet/raise and dump my cards after the flop.
 
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IJustWantToTalk said:
I agree with what the majority of the answers people have responded with on this post. Don't limp with AK early in the tourny. Offsuit or not. I'd rather shove all-in pre-flop and take a coin flip than to call any bet/raise and dump my cards after the flop.
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So, you rather be flipping at the early stages of the tournament, instead of playing the player? Gambler. Just raise pre and see how it goes, then decided what to do.
 
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With the given scenario, ofcourse you fold since nothing hits your AK. One more thing 5 people contesting the pot meaning your losing at the flop statistically, and it said the phase is at the early stage. You want to hang there and survive at the early stage.
 
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In this situatio your AK is trash. Straight AKQJT is very unlikely and 6 odds to top pair (and its dont guarantee win). Probably opponents have tripses, 2-paires, drawes, your othercards too weak
 
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Raise AK, your trying to get people out of pot. And if you miss flop depending on texture and bet sizes you folding or floating.
 
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instant fold BB went allin with 4 callers behind.. and you got A high.. i don't get the question here.. my question is how can you play a pot with 6 players when you play AK..?
 
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In this case ,I always fold. It's no need to care too much.
 
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you are right
i know i should have raised preflop. i hoped to make a nice trap for someone.
first guy to go all in had QQ, he won with two pairs Q 5
 
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oooo said:
So, you rather be flipping at the early stages of the tournament, instead of playing the player? Gambler. Just raise pre and see how it goes, then decided what to do.
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I said "I would rather take a coin flip pre-flop than dump my cards after the flop". I would bet or 3-bet my hand naturally. Or... If it was a large enough raise to me... I would fold. Normally I tend to limp in with ANY hand early in a tournmanet... EXCEPT for premium hands like AKo or any other in a particular range of my own taste.

I'm with you. I wouldn't normally coinflip on AKo pre-flop early in a tournment. Only with AA-QQ. and Queens are pushing it.
 
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AK is a drawing hand, so if you don't hit you usually should fold.
 
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I love players who missed the flop with AK but still pushing all in :D
 
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