when to use odd to improve hand from flop to river in FLHE
Newbie question here about LIMIT Holdem:
I think I understand how & why to calculate odds
on the flop to improve your hand on the turn
when deciding whether to call a bet or fold. But what I'm not sure about is how/when you would use your odds to make your hand on by the river
. I've been playing with the former calculations for situations like this:
I'm in late position against three opponents and make middle pair with a rainbow flop (one is the same suit as my suited hold cards). The first to act bets, and I put him on top pair or an overpair; one person folds, the other calls.
Normally, I'd think I have 5 outs at this point to either make trips or two pair of the turn to beat the villain's pair, which would require better than 8.5 pot odds
to make the call. But I've also flopped a back door flush draw here, which means I'm a little less than 2:1 to hit my flush by the river. And that's a big difference.
So the question here is.... which odds to I use to determine what I do -- the 8.5:1 odds to hit trips or 2 pair on the turn
, or the 2:1 odds to hit my back door flush by the river
? I think people the latter sometimes, but perhaps it's different in FLHE vs NLHE. I've been almost exclusively using the odds for the turn
. Is that a bad idea?