What's helps you recognise a "fish"?

#1 May 5th, 2020, 12:10 PM

Hi, guys!
Does anybody know special signs which helps you recognise a "fresh blood" in poker?
What's common newbiers mistakes allow you to recognise them?

As for me, due to my observation, the most common failures happens when player forget about position, and takes too much risk. If they got a pair of kings etc,
their brains turn off instantly. Also it can be disrespectful relation to oll-in bets.

What's your point of view?

#2 May 5th, 2020, 3:17 PM

a mirror helps me recognize a fish very well.

#3 May 5th, 2020, 8:59 PM

Takes a moment but usually I can tell who a fish is whens I see them limp way too often. Additionally if they seem to get sucked out a lot and overplay their hands.

#4 May 5th, 2020, 9:21 PM

He do a lot of “call’s”

#5 May 5th, 2020, 9:39 PM

Each player has their own concept of fish.

#6 May 5th, 2020, 11:22 PM

mistakes are known, frankly playing on freeroll tables, there are many newbies who do not know, and you as a player have to detect it, many times they want to go without having anything in order to earn their grounds, sometimes there are many different fish, some that when they see the flop they are all thrown without hands stuck, others go with the card less than the flop and go to the call, many things that are visible. !! 1

#7 May 6th, 2020, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by ohshootmybad

a mirror helps me recognize a fish very well.

hi hi ohshoot!!! What's helps you recognise a "fish"?

yes yes yes a mirror... that work for me hahahaha
when i read, i think i a fish wonder how fast players learn that of me?

What's helps you recognise a "fish"?

#8 May 6th, 2020, 1:54 AM

Didnt you know that the most common addage in poker is, that if you cant recognize the fish at the table, its you.

#9 May 6th, 2020, 1:02 PM

As already stated , limping or calling too much is probably the easiest giveaway.

Otherwise overbets or huge underbets without a good justification would be another sign, but you need to see some cards to see if this was warranted. That said, you occasionally see somebody bet 40 into a pot that's like 350 chips, and I can't think of any good reason for such a bet size.

#10 May 6th, 2020, 1:22 PM

When they go all in vs someone,but they are cheap leaders and they have 10%,20%,or 30% chips more.After that all in finish and they lost,next hand,they go all in again with really bad hands.This is not way to recognize a fish,this is way to see,who is bad player.

#11 May 6th, 2020, 2:02 PM

Originally Posted by ohshootmybad

a mirror helps me recognize a fish very well.

Ahaha:-) unfortunately, me too What's helps you recognise a "fish"?

#12 May 6th, 2020, 2:22 PM

Originally Posted by ohshootmybad

a mirror helps me recognize a fish very well.

Kkkkkkkkkk damn bro, i don't know how but i'm laughing outside and crying inside. I feel you.

Answering the question. fish play a lot of hands in the early stages of tournaments and limp, make a lot of bluffs at the wrong times and place very high or very low value bets. There are several others but these are the ones I recognize for now.

#13 May 6th, 2020, 4:24 PM

The biggest indicator is when they seem to play any hand (premium or speculative) without regard to position or table dynamics the same way - passively. There is a place for passive play but not ALL the time.

#14 May 6th, 2020, 4:34 PM

First you will have to take a few minutes and observe several spots ... and if you notice any player who practically plays + 80% of the pot either doing "Limp" or "call" very often then there you have a fish ...!

#15 November 24th, 2020, 5:19 AM

You can always mark a fish when they shove out of position with a 20+BB stack. Wayyyy too aggressive and they're for sure playing for fun.

#16 November 24th, 2020, 8:14 AM

If someone is limping over 40% of hands, add that player as a friend.

#17 November 24th, 2020, 8:37 AM

ahaha we are all fish, some are more, some are less, this rule has been in effect for a long time, and so observation is the most important thing for an opponent

#18 November 24th, 2020, 10:27 AM

1) VPIP >40% for full ring - 25-40% is "semi-fish"
3) Open limping in cash games or from EP/MP
4) Ridiculous bet sizes
5) Posting a blind in cash games especially from early position
6) Donk betting the flop on textures, that favour the preflop raiser
7) Donk betting the river on a blank
8) Showing down some ridiculous hand
9) Complaining in the chat

#19 November 24th, 2020, 10:40 AM

There's a lot of way recognizing a fish. Some of my obvious observations on the way they've played their hand is:

1. They limp too much
2. They don't understand the power of position
3. Playing shortstack in cash games
4. Has high VPIP rate
5. Too passive

#20 November 24th, 2020, 11:05 AM

Such players usually play with all hands in a row and just count on their luck. For me, such opponents are just a good opportunity to double my stack.

#21 November 24th, 2020, 12:25 PM

If you cannot identify a sucker in the first half hour, then you yourself are a sucker What's helps you recognise a "fish"?

#22 November 24th, 2020, 12:40 PM

in general he bet too often and not fold enough. they misread the game and ignore their positions. they also make mistakes in the size of their bets and show their hands after bluffing. they find it difficult to remain patient and to be rigorous.

#23 November 24th, 2020, 12:49 PM

When it comes to hold'em, there are key statistics that show how much a player is phishing

#24 November 24th, 2020, 12:51 PM

I don't know, because I'm a fish))))

But "fishes" usually play with bad hands and often limps.

#25 November 24th, 2020, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by johnmaltz19

There's a lot of way recognizing a fish. Some of my obvious observations on the way they've played their hand is:

1. They limp too much
2. They don't understand the power of position
3. Playing shortstack in cash games
4. Has high VPIP rate
5. Too passive

Oh yeah forgot about point 3). Maybe not a 100% sure fish tell, but at least 9 out of 10 players, who dont play a full stack in cash games, are not very good. As for point 5) most fish are passive but not all. Someone playing 64/54 with a 3-bet of 34% is certainly also a fish (maniac type), but you want to adjust differently to this player than a 64/4 with a 3-bet of 2%.

#26 November 24th, 2020, 1:27 PM

Originally Posted by ohshootmybad

a mirror helps me recognize a fish very well.

You just make my day)) This is really the best comment.

#27 November 24th, 2020, 1:53 PM

One of the quickest ways is pre-flop raise-sizing. For example, with a 15bb stack, a player raises to 3bb. It's very likely that someone doing this is a recreational opponent as almost all regs would be shoving, folding, or min-raising, or occasionally open-limping.

#28 November 24th, 2020, 2:16 PM

The fish can always be recognized. Such players, hoping for luck, call with a bad card of other players' bets. Go to all-in with any card.

#29 November 24th, 2020, 3:18 PM

You put it quite good there yourself. What's helps you recognise a "fish"?

If there is "a fish", there is other categories. Possible "pro" is likely multi-tabling, playing single situations by the book or default values and possibilities.

Evaluate both, use qualities against each other an appropriate extent, and you`re champ right? What's helps you recognise a "fish"?

#30 November 24th, 2020, 3:47 PM

A weak player always plays a lot of empty hands, big raises both in position and out of position, at the beginning of the tournament he plays at big stakes and does not worry about losing his stack in the "freezeout" format. A bad player plays hesitantly in the middle of the tournament, this is the case when the bubble can be opened soon.

#31 November 24th, 2020, 7:49 PM

I don't think there is any single way to tell a fish - just some ways that are more reliable than others.

Yes, lots of statistics can identify fishy play (really high VPIP, lots of limping etc.) but so can HOW they act - sometimes even more so than what the action itself is.

Take a "simple" action like "open-raising" - are they consistent with what appears to be a method (doesn't matter if it is 3X raise, 3X + 1X per limper etc, but are they sticking to it most of the time?). Lack of a method may indicate a fishier player.

Another action is table chatter. Are they talkative "consistently" or not? A fish may only become chatty when they have a hand or vice-versa. Even regs are sometimes guilty of this, but pros like Tony G are capable of table chatter with a monster hand as well as complete air.

Similarly, HOW and WHAT are the complaints/chatter about? A bit frustrated at a suckout straight hitting the River for the opponent? Perhaps legitimate? Complaining that the AK they limped into a multiway pot with lost to an Ace-rag Flush...maybe they are a fish (most players wouldn't slowplay AK this way or at very least not limp into a multiway pot like this; with decent effective stacks, they should be raising and isolating).

Likewise, Isolating! Lots of fish don't isolate as much as they should. A good player knows that hands with less equity can still outdraw you, if you let them in too cheaply by not raising earlier on.

There are a ton more "fishy clues" to watch out for, but these are a few highlight ones I think.

#32 November 25th, 2020, 3:19 AM

Originally Posted by GreGo

Hi, guys!
Does anybody know special signs which helps you recognise a "fresh blood" in poker?
What's common newbiers mistakes allow you to recognise them?

As for me, due to my observation, the most common failures happens when player forget about position, and takes too much risk. If they got a pair of kings etc,
their brains turn off instantly. Also it can be disrespectful relation to oll-in bets.

What's your point of view?

I believe it depends a lot on what you're playing, are you talking about cash game, mtt or sit&go?
I think for every situation there are different ways to specify something, in fact, sometimes we think that certain plays are bad when in fact they are not.
Good luck at the tables!

#33 November 25th, 2020, 3:45 AM

Usually the first orbit you can identify the fish. They will limp to see cards, but you have to be careful as some fish will raise their premium hands and some will only limp their premium hands. You have to be able to distinct the differences in the two. The first example is the easiest to play against.

#34 November 25th, 2020, 4:05 AM

what helps me to identify a fish is the size of the bet and if you throw yourself very out of position.

#35 November 30th, 2020, 7:12 PM

If they:
1. limp to sitters
2. fold to sitters
3. high blind limp
4. button limp
5. if they dont call short stacks when they are priced in
6. if they have a large vpip-pfr gap

#36 December 1st, 2020, 4:55 AM

There are many ways to identify a fish. It could be the cards they play, how many hands, they play, how often they are limping in or calling raises. Typically it tends to be more than one thing, or more than one time. It's usually a combination of things. For instance I might notice someone limping into a lot of hands, then realize that they're playing passively, check/calling the flop and turn before check/folding the river. Then I'm going to want to see a hand at showdown for verification. Until I see a hand play out and go to showdown, it's all just speculation. But if you've played the game enough, and you've seen the signs before, you'll know them when you see them again.

#37 December 1st, 2020, 5:59 AM

Originally Posted by GreGo

Hi, guys!
Does anybody know special signs which helps you recognise a "fresh blood" in poker?
What's common newbiers mistakes allow you to recognise them?

As for me, due to my observation, the most common failures happens when player forget about position, and takes too much risk. If they got a pair of kings etc,
their brains turn off instantly. Also it can be disrespectful relation to oll-in bets.

What's your point of view?

I've seen this a couple of times lately.

A player that doesn't bet or raise with the stone-cold nuts!

Can't believe it. So I put it in their notes.

#38 December 1st, 2020, 6:01 AM

limps and just calls a lot

never raising except monsters

#39 December 1st, 2020, 6:39 AM

They like to limp a lot of hands. Big time chasers can earn you a lot of money if you can catch that fish. They generally overplay there big hands. Most will go down guns blazing with AK! That�s been my experience has been!!

Z

Stay Safe

#40 December 1st, 2020, 6:39 PM

Originally Posted by caracaski220

Didnt you know that the most common addage in poker is, that if you cant recognize the fish at the table, its you.

I'll have to remember that one!

Fishes for me are players that limp alot then go all-in when they get raised. More than often they have nothing.

#41 December 1st, 2020, 6:50 PM

Fish in poker falls into two broad categories:
1. Callers. Who do nothing but call even the highest raises. They need by all means to bring the distribution to the showdown. Often they turn out to be the winners, because opponents blinded by trying to squeeze more money out of the fish forget that there are fish with teeth.
2. "Bluff Kings". They play all hands as aggressively as possible to knock opponents out of the hand.

#42 December 1st, 2020, 6:50 PM

Guys pounding in omaha pre flop and folding by the turn. Same thing next hand??

#43 December 15th, 2020, 10:51 PM

The obvious fish tell I notice the most is silly bet sizing. Betting 2 cent into a 30 cent pot type of thing

#44 December 15th, 2020, 10:59 PM

People who go all-in a lot and then still win with a lot of luck.

#45 December 15th, 2020, 11:14 PM

I rather not call him a fish or dunk(out of respect) I rather call him a weak player. He is someone who doesnt have an understanding of good starting hands, will call with starting hands that have negative value,like calling raises with weak Ace,etc..
and as whole ,is game has a lot of holes in it

#46 December 15th, 2020, 11:29 PM

plays to many hands but get lucky onece in awhile and that how justify [;ayin donkey hands

#47 December 15th, 2020, 11:38 PM

a person who bluffs 3 out of 10 hands consistently.

#48 December 15th, 2020, 11:42 PM

Everybody that isn't a pro is a fish in their book. I don't look to call anybody a fish or a pro. I instead try to find a weakness in each player's game and through trail and error hope to capitals on their weaknesses. As far as calling people fish well I hope they break your lines and escape the hooks and take your bait from you. That is what I wish will happen to you when you feel the need to apply names to other players. Weak, strong, or Winning players I wish you luck if you don't pin your losses on the other players at the which you label as fish, donkey or nit.

#49 December 16th, 2020, 8:21 AM

they have a lot of limps from early position

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