What is the Top Five Cards rule and how do you apply for splitting pots

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Still confused by the concept, can anyone explain it to me?
 
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Hello ,I don't quite understand what five rules card?the combination you are interested in?
 
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Guessing at what you mean:

You take the 2 hole cards and the 5 board cards and form a 5 card hand. The 6th and 7th cards are ignored in deciding who wins the hand (showdown). Online they choose your best hand for you. Playing in person, a player could (and sometimes do) choose the wrong 5 cards.
 
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A player never "chooses" which five cards to play. When he flips his cards up, his best possible hand is what plays.
 
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A player never "chooses" which five cards to play. When he flips his cards up, his best possible hand is what plays.

Yeah, you are right.
However, I am not sure that applies to home games where there is no dealer. That would be according to house rules.
Also a player mucks (and bets) based on his best 5 cards. I think Ivey mucked a flush on TV. Its a true muck - after the other player showed his hand.

lol - he mucked up !
 
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Split pot - you and your opponent have the same top five cards(including the board and 2 pocket cards).
 
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One time, I seen a new player complain, saying he should win because he had 3 pairs, lol.

But also, every once in a while a new player doesn't pay attention to the board pairing up and counterfeiting his hand. (Like 78 vs 99, on a 78AJJ board)
 
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Best 5 card hand wins. Suits are equal for sharing a pot.
 
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It should be the same for a home game. But that raises a interesting question. What if in a home game a player tables his hand but doesn't realize he has a straight and announces a pair (seen it happen before). His opponent has 2 pair. You are at the table but not in the hand. Should you say something?
 
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It should be the same for a home game. But that raises a interesting question. What if in a home game a player tables his hand but doesn't realize he has a straight and announces a pair (seen it happen before). His opponent has 2 pair. You are at the table but not in the hand. Should you say something?

lol - quite the predicament. :D
Its because you are using rules written for a dealer, at home where there is no dealer. So if you DO say something, should the winner change?
 
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Thanks for all the input, helped, and appreciate it!
 
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It should be the same for a home game. But that raises a interesting question. What if in a home game a player tables his hand but doesn't realize he has a straight and announces a pair (seen it happen before). His opponent has 2 pair. You are at the table but not in the hand. Should you say something?

It is EVERY players responsibility to announce when something is wrong - this is in every rule book, you should say something
 
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It is EVERY players responsibility to announce when something is wrong - this is in every rule book, you should say something

In a chess tournament, no one other than the players is allowed to say anything, even if you witness an illegal move. Seems like poker should have the same responsibility to leave it to the players in the hand.

Sometimes online, they deal it so fast, it's hard to figure out why you lost or won. Practically every tournament I'm in, at some point I say to myself, "Wait, what just happened?" Then I have to do a hand replay to figure it out.

Counterfeiting seems like it surprises a lot of new players, and having the same hand with a better kicker can be tricky, too.
 
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In a chess tournament, no one other than the players is allowed to say anything, even if you witness an illegal move. Seems like poker should have the same responsibility to leave it to the players in the hand.

Sometimes online, they deal it so fast, it's hard to figure out why you lost or won. Practically every tournament I'm in, at some point I say to myself, "Wait, what just happened?" Then I have to do a hand replay to figure it out.

Counterfeiting seems like it surprises a lot of new players, and having the same hand with a better kicker can be tricky, too.

yes - when I say every player I mean of the players playing at the table who were dealt a hand, all of whom are active players in the game, just not necessarily that hand, not any of the railers - again this is in every poker rule book

in chess, everyone except the two players playing are railbirds and should never say anything - except if there is a judge or TD
 
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yes - when I say every player I mean of the players playing at the table who were dealt a hand, all of whom are active players in the game, just not necessarily that hand, not any of the railers - again this is in every poker rule book

in chess, everyone except the two players playing are railbirds and should never say anything - except if there is a judge or TD

That makes sense. Is there an official poker tournament rules book? If so, I'd like to get it. I have the USCF Official Chess Rules.
 
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That makes sense. Is there an official poker tournament rules book? If so, I'd like to get it. I have the USCF Official Chess Rules.

Most poker rooms, for tournaments, will go by TDA (Tournament Directors Association) - some people get confused thinking these are rules for cash games - THEY ARE NOT

Some poker rooms will abide by wsop rules - I have them or a link to them if you want a copy

Some smaller rooms will go by Roberts Rules Of Poker - a kinder gentler book of rules - not so harsh on a few things

Most casinos will start with WSOP and TDA rules and probably make a few changes to fit their own needs.

The rooms I run use a mix of Roberts Rules and TDA, if anything else comes up not covered we go to WSOP

Roberts Rules Of Poker and TDA can both be found online, WSOP lists theirs but only through a link I wont share publicly (though I am sure someone else has) - there are also copies of WSOP rules floating around I am sure, but they change every year so make sure you have updated rules.
 
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Most poker rooms, for tournaments, will go by TDA (Tournament Directors Association) - some people get confused thinking these are rules for cash games - THEY ARE NOT

When WSOP says "Live Action" - do they mean Cash?
 
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