Originally Posted by asianpride54
I don't do the odds unless I know I'm losing in a hand... But it really not to calculate the odds but trying to play your opponents hand meaning to try to figure out what he has and not what do you have.
These are two separate issues. Putting your opponent on a hand is one thing, and it's an important skill, but has really more to do with your experience with that opponent, knowing his range and tendencies and things like that. Sure, you can put yourself in his position and try to figure out whether he's making reasonable calls given certain scenarios, but you can't really calculate his hand. You don't really NEED to know his hand. You just need to know whether you're likely to beat his probable range of hands. In other words, if you're drawing to a flush and happen to complete it, it doesn't matter whether he has a pair of aces, a set, two pair or a straight.
You're missing a big part of the game, though, if you never make odds calculations based on your own draws. You can be behind in a hand, that is to say losing at the moment, but be favored to win by the river. You need to know that. You can also be behind, still be likely to lose but have pot odds or implied odds that exceed your drawing odds. It's usually correct to make those draws, even though you're likely to lose this time. What you're interested in is not the times you win and the time you lose, but the expected Value
. If in a given situation you lose $10 four times, but expect to win $50 once, that is a positive eV situation. Every five time you're in this situation, if you play it correctly, you'll expect to make $10, or $2.50 per hand.
If you don't calculate outs and odds, then you don't recognize situations where you should be making such draws and you're giving up a good part of your game.