what does this mean

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i apologize for limping. but it happend iono why i called that one.
but wat does this mean does he have a monster? or bluffiin cuz sometimes i see people do this

Hand#2873015942000552 - Rome (Turbo, 6-max, shallow) 15942 -- $0.02/$0.04 NL Hold'em -- 2012/02/16 - 14:11:55
Dealer: Seat 2
Seat 1: kaasjongen1 ($2.41 in chips)
Seat 2: Stoneyman ($2.02 in chips)
Seat 8: But Sects ($1.96 in chips)
Seat 9: Trix ($2.82 in chips)
Seat 10: McCOOCH ($1.59 in chips)
But Sects: posts small blind $0.02
Trix: posts big blind $0.04
Dealt to Stoneyman [7s,Kh]
McCOOCH: folds
kaasjongen1: folds
Stoneyman: calls $0.04
But Sects: folds
Trix: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc,8s,Kd]
Trix: bets $0.52
Stoneyman: folds
Trix: returns uncalled bet $0.52
***SHOW DOWN***
Trix: mucks
Trix wins $0.10
 
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maybe im thinkin hes on a draw? go big or go home?
 
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Ok there is ton wrong here
#1 BUY IN FULL- 1bi=100bb,here that would be $4.00
click the auto reload box to 100bb
#2 Get out of the habbit of limping period,there should be no reason of why you would open limp EVER
#3 hands should be posted in the HA section with any read,and any notes you have on the villain
#4 Fold preflop
#5 i fold given no reads
#6learn,read,study,get better,????,profit
 
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maybe im thinkin hes on a draw? go big or go home?
Why do you put is range on a draw?Think about that.Do you have notes on villain that he plays draws agg?Do you have stats,notes that he bets big first to act on the flop?There must be a reason you think he is on a draw what is it?
 
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Ok there is ton wrong here
#1 BUY IN FULL- 1bi=100bb,here that would be $4.00
click the auto reload box to 100bb
#2 Get out of the habbit of limping period,there should be no reason of why you would open limp EVER
#3 Hands should be posted in the HA section with any read,and any notes you have on the villain
#4 Fold preflop
#5 i fold given no reads
#6learn,read,study,get better,????,profit

+1, except for BI for 100BB, table is shallow so I'd imagine that's why nobody is 100BB deep.
 
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+1, except for BI for 100BB, table is shallow so I'd imagine that's why nobody is 100BB deep.
Yeah...but if you auto have 100bb bi clicked and auto reload to 100bb like you should.His stack would have 100bbTthis means he is playing other games that people are =to are > than 100bb's and he is still playing mid stack which is bad.
 
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Yea if you can reload to 100BB do it but it's possible 50BB is all you can here (no idea what max BI is just guessing)
 
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I don't think merge has small bi tables.Since he is in U.S. i figure that is where he is playing.Follow me?
 
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I'm completely going off "Turbo, 6-max, shallow" which I imagine would be a small BI. Since nobody is deep I presume 100BB is not an option. I could be completely wrong here, just second guessing OP.
 
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Didn't see that Blue ....hell i could be wrong sure as hell wouldn't be the first time:)
since i don't play SS i'm not scum:)
 
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Ok there is ton wrong here
#1 BUY IN FULL- 1bi=100bb,here that would be $4.00
click the auto reload box to 100bb
#2 Get out of the habbit of limping period,there should be no reason of why you would open limp EVER
#3 Hands should be posted in the HA section with any read,and any notes you have on the villain
#4 Fold preflop
#5 i fold given no reads
#6learn,read,study,get better,????,profit
Ok, there's a ton wrong here too.
#1 You don't always have to play with a full buy-in. 50bb's is not particularly shallow and in this case effective stacks are in this range. There's no real need to carry a stack any bigger than the most you can win in one hand.
#2 I agree that you should "get out of the habit of limping" as you say. In general it's a losing play and screams weakness but you seem pretty adamant that there's NEVER a situation where it's correct to do so. In poker, NEVER say NEVER. I can think of several situations where it is correct and profitable to do so. However, the hand posted above is not one of them.
#3 Okay
#4 Or raise.
#5 It's a push for me. I don't think calling is terrible.
#6 Indeed :)
 
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Would be good if you could confirm 100BB is not an option smokeme lol.
 
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im playin at intertops. and yea 2dollar is max at that table. i only been playin at that table for a little while. but he seems tight imo rarely raises and folds to bets. but out of no where he bets like that and he did it twice. sorry for posting it here this is where i usually post my questions. and again yea max buy in is 2bucks. on this table as u can see everyone has about 2 bucks at the table
 
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Ok, there's a ton wrong here too.
#1 You don't always have to play with a full buy-in. 50bb's is not particularly shallow and in this case effective stacks are in this range. There's no real need to carry a stack any bigger than the most you can win in one hand.
#2 I agree that you should "get out of the habit of limping" as you say. In general it's a losing play and screams weakness but you seem pretty adamant that there's NEVER a situation where it's correct to do so. In poker, NEVER say NEVER. I can think of several situations where it is correct and profitable to do so. However, the hand posted above is not one of them.
#3 Okay
#4 Or raise.
#5 It's a push for me. I don't think calling is terrible.
#6 Indeed :)

1-Sure you can do if you know how to play with diff effective stacks, since OP is open-linping I doubt he realises and employs diff strat.
2- obv talking in general
4- no reason to raise
5-fold>shove>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>call
 
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Ok, there's a ton wrong here too.
#1 You don't always have to play with a full buy-in. 50bb's is not particularly shallow and in this case effective stacks are in this range. There's no real need to carry a stack any bigger than the most you can win in one hand.if it's not a shallow table this is fishy as hell
#2 I agree that you should "get out of the habit of limping" as you say. In general it's a losing play and screams weakness but you seem pretty adamant that there's NEVER a situation where it's correct to do so. In poker, NEVER say NEVER. I can think of several situations where it is correct and profitable to do so. However, the hand posted above is not one of them.only thing i can think of is over a LARGE SAMPLE.Fish raises limper 100% but folds to 3 bets 100%

#3 Okay
#4 Or raise.na
#5 It's a push for me. I don't think calling is terrible.na
#6 Indeed :)
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and yea apologize for limping i think i was multi tablin and wasnt payin attention to the hand and called but the question is why would somebody over bet wen pot is only 10 cents and he did it twice on me. only thing i can say bout him is he dint play many hands but and he only did that in bb or sb
 
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Probs just spazzin' out but if you call you're behind too much to justify it. He may be under impression this is best way to protect form draws.
 
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would you ever bluff that way tho where pot is like 10 cents and u go over the top to 50? atleast have a draw or something tho right?
 
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and yea apologize for limping i think i was multi tablin and wasnt payin attention to the hand and called but the question is why would somebody over bet wen pot is only 10 cents and he did it twice on me. only thing i can say bout him is he dint play many hands but and he only did that in bb or sb
No need to apologize LEARN.Calling or raiseing here is loseing unless you have some solid notes over many hands.
 
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Back to OP's original title, "what does this mean". It means you limp too many hands. And should be raising from that position preflop. At least it would establish your initial control of the hand.
 
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Yea raise pre, just looked at seats and thought OP was UTG+1(seat 2).
 
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Open raising from the Button with any 2 cards is profitable. King high is more than adaquate.
Edit: miss read hand on button raise 3x.Thanks for catching that
fold on flop though as played
 
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I would say occasional open limping in the right type of situation is fine. But K7os is not one of those situations.
 
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