What is "Deep stack"?

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I just started my first tournement hand analysis thread. While setting it up, i was asked to describe the kind of game. I know what all of the terms meant except for "Deep stack". Does this simply mean players start with double stacks?
 
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I just started my first tournement hand analysis thread. While setting it up, i was asked to describe the kind of game. I know what all of the terms meant except for "Deep stack". Does this simply mean players start with double stacks?

Yup, Double or more.
 
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Generally I would say that a Deep Stack tourney is a starting stack of 10000 chips or more.

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Most sites have starting stacks of 1500-2000 chips. Deep Stack is when they increase the starting chips. Most of them refer to dee stack when they double the chips to either 3000 or 4000.
 
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IMO deep stack is 100bb or deeper.
 
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There are deep stack ring games too. Instead of the max buyin being 100 BB you are allowed to buyin for 200 BB for example in a .05/.10 NL $10 max game you'd be allowed to buyin for $20.

-Raymond
 
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Yes, and together with more starting chips you also usually have slower levels, like 15 minutes or more instead of 10 or 12.
 
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a deep stack is 200BB+. what it means to be deep stacked is you can call pot sized bets on every street and not be allin. a short stack will be allin w/2 or less pot sized bets a medium stack w/3. heres an eg of how it works. theres a raise of 3x and you call in the SB say.
so...
preflop(7BBs) villian raises 3x hero calls
flop(21BBs) hero checks villian bets pot hero calls
turn(63BBs) hero checks villian bets pot hero calls
river(189BBs) hero checks villian bets pot hero calls
so 3BB(pf call)+ 7BBs(flop call)+21BBs(turn call)+63BBs(rier call)=94BB not enough to get a deep stack allin but enough to get a medium stack(94BBs) allin.
 
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There are deep stack ring games too. Instead of the max buyin being 100 BB you are allowed to buyin for 200 BB for example in a .05/.10 NL $10 max game you'd be allowed to buyin for $20.

-Raymond
correcto mundo
 
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deep stack is when u buy in for a very big amount like above average but in or u have won many pots and are now above more than average stack in the table !!
 
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See Cardplayer52s reply.
Many people simply quote numbers of bb without any reference to a context.
The crucial difference when it comes to stack sizes is how many bets / raises you can make before you get allin because this affects the implied odds you offer or get.

For example, if you can get more than 10% of your stack in preflop, you are denying any villain a chance to make ev by set-mining.

However, if you are 500bb deep and you 2b utg to 55bb, are you going to be called by any sensible player or will everyone except AA, KK (mayhe) and AK poss fold? If, though, you rsise to 3bb and get called, you have one pair with 497bb left , three more streets of betting and 6-7bb in the pot. Betting and raising blindly in this context is not going to end well v a decent player.

Dan Harrington's Cash books have a page where the exact number of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 3/4 and pot bets that can be made with varying stack sizes.
 
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Usually means you start with more chips than usual.
 
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it's not how many chips you have, but how many big blinds
 
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Much more chips than normal tournaments.
 
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See Cardplayer52s reply.
Many people simply quote numbers of bb without any reference to a context.
The crucial difference when it comes to stack sizes is how many bets / raises you can make before you get allin because this affects the implied odds you offer or get.

For example, if you can get more than 10% of your stack in preflop, you are denying any villain a chance to make ev by set-mining.

However, if you are 500bb deep and you 2b utg to 55bb, are you going to be called by any sensible player or will everyone except AA, KK (mayhe) and AK poss fold? If, though, you rsise to 3bb and get called, you have one pair with 497bb left , three more streets of betting and 6-7bb in the pot. Betting and raising blindly in this context is not going to end well v a decent player.

Dan Harrington's Cash books have a page where the exact number of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 3/4 and pot bets that can be made with varying stack sizes.
good information, thank you
 
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