Originally Posted by NoWuckingFurries
Yes thanks Melkor, I really appreciate you giving such detailed reasons for what you say, it helps me to understand better where you are coming from, and the reasoning behind it. I think there are two things that play in the back of my mind:
1) The very fact that AK is called "Walking Home to Houston", and the quote which is allegedly the background to that name:So I don't want to overplay it!
2) If the ace or king are paired on the flop I have TPTK, and if 2 of the same suit flop when I have AK suited I have a nut flush draw. What concerns me is when none of those things happen, and I am uncertain of what the percentages would be against me with a rainbow flop that contains neither an ace or a king.
Thanks again for posting!
No worries, glad I can help a bit.
Yeah, I have heard that quote too. I want to say that my reasoning is for tournaments only. In cash games, which is where that saying comes from, you really don't want to overplay AK preflop and there are many ways to play it in different situations, a lot usually villain dependent. It is because of the deep stacks in play that AK's value diminishes slightly. In tournies it really is such an important hand as when it comes to all-in decisions it factors on middling pairs when getting it in, on small pairs when getting it in and on c-bets on the flop after a preflop raise. As I said, its strength lies in pretending to be something it isn't and also in how it fares when seeing 5 cards against almost all hands.
On rainbow flops with AK a whole host of factors come into play. Whether or not we were the aggressor preflop, whether we are in position, how the villain has been playing, how we have been playing and stack sizes. If we are in position on say a 358 rainbow board and we are checked to a lot of the time we are c-betting, even if it is for our whole stack to make a pot sized bet. Sure, a lot of pairs look us up but we still have 6 outs to make an A or a K. Often, we will get a fold from a similar two high cards.
Just remember in tournies it is a strong hand and continue to play it that way.
EDIT: I didn't read your questions there NWF. To number 4, we usually have to fold as that is the way it goes. But we will be getting into less of number 4 spots if we choose number 3 and get it all-in more often.