Value bet river

when your holding the nutz and someone has already double barreled you what is a good value bet on river 30 50 or 100 % of pot? I feel I am not getting the most out of my good hands


PS i just floated his previous bets

Depends on what you think he has and what he thinks you have. If it looks like you were calling for a flush draw that didn't get there then bet big to make it look like a bluff. If you feel he has a small piece of it then bet small and let him pay you off.

in my 2cents opinion , the river big bet is best way to get more value. as it mostly Shows like a bluff to many.. but again it all depends upon Opponent and table Dynamics. if u playing a tag and he Keep on betting n u ve the nuts then go ahead n shove on him . he cant fold . but if it s amaniac then value bet is best as he ll think u r bluffing him so he ll shove on top so that u can get full value of it.

Not that I am a poker pro, but that 30% value bet usually gets me paid. When I shove I usually get nothing. Then like someone else said they think you are bluffing with small value bet. They either call or shove.. I hate not getting paid on a good hand....

This is a tough question because as with most poker things it depends on the situation and the players involved. That being said I find generally when I keep checking to an aggressive player they generally push on the river. If I feel they have gotten soft and are likely to fold I will sometimes do like a 1/4 pot or smaller anything more is better than nothing. If they bet under pot at me I usually 3x or at least 2x their bet. Of course I have done and will do other things in the same situation I think that unpredictability is a huge strength in poker. I hope my ramblings help and Good Luck!

If my opponent has been betting big and reraising on flop and turn, I would likely try to put him all in. My strategy would be to bet about 3/4 of his stack, hoping he will shove the rest.

Always try to get Max Value. And if he doesn't call use that for future betting

thankyou all, I have been trying to implement as much advice as possible the result is me playing more of a TAG style, but it has been paying off over the last couple weeks. (as long as i don't drink) but even after loosing money while drinking I am able to recover it the next day.

wildyetty said:

when your holding the nutz and someone has already double barreled you what is a good value bet on river 30 50 or 100 % of pot? I feel I am not getting the most out of my good hands


PS i just floated his previous bets

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I've never floated with the nuts before lol. You know floating means calling with air right?

Chances if your opponent double barrelled, he's most likely going to call a small bet on the river. If you have the nuts you obviously want to invite a raise from your opponent so you can re-raise further or shove over the top of him/her, so 30% seems about right to tempt the player in.

wildyetty said:

when your holding the nutz and someone has already double barreled you what is a good value bet on river 30 50 or 100 % of pot? I feel I am not getting the most out of my good hands


PS i just floated his previous bets

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It depends on a lot of things. Are you in position or out of position? What are you value betting? How light does your villain barrel? How stationy or passive is your villain? What is in your villain's value range? How many missed draws are out on the board? And if you want to get really into it: how will your bet affect your opponents perception of you in later hands, and how will it affect the way the rest of the table views you?

I tend to big of the mindset to go for the biggest bet I think will yield the most equitable outcome. Meaning - if I know my opponent is folding, it doesn't matter what piece of the pot I bet. So I'm going to bet big. Because I want to set the tone that if you're looking for a showdown with me, be ready to call a big bet on the river.

Using your scenario, I would probably bet smallish hoping for a reraise. If I bet big, I'm thinking he's going to fold to a show of strength. A weak river value bet - third pot? - can create doubt in opponent's minds as to whether or not you've made a strong hand, and perhaps induce a re-raise.

If the opponent simply calls the small bet, it would suggest to me that a larger bet might have gone uncalled. If he re-raises, or pushes all in, I'll have gained good info for future pots played with him. I think there's value in that knowledge just as there's cash value in the game.

great way too look at it braveboat thankyou

That's not necessarily a good way to look at it. You're going to miss a lot of value on the river that way.

If you're not asking "what is my opponent double barreling with?" then there is no answer to your question. Of course, this requires thinking and paying attention. But if you want to just routinely put in 1/3 pot bets on the river when you have the nuts prepare to not get a lot of value.

AND we really need to know if you are in position or out of position.

Also, I'm not sure I like flat calling two streets with the nuts, I don't think it is supremely profitable. Unless you are on a really passive table. Particularly if it's a draw-ish board, which if you've got the nuts it probably is.