Turning your hand into a Bluff?

I have seen that phrase a few times in the HA section and want to make sure I understand it correctly?

Does it mean that by your actions in the hand that you are representing a much stronger hand than you are actually holding?

example

Hero - KK

Board - 7s,8c,2h,4s, 9d

In this hand you shove the river to represent the straight becuase you don't think villian can call your bet but might have you KK's beat if you have to show down?


Thanks.

Yep. That sounds about right. Although, in that case, you could maybe be called by a worse hand. Lets say you had Q8 instead, then you'd be about right . The idea is that you forgoe the showdown value your hand had if you think you can blow an opponent off of a huge portion of his range. Thus, bluffing is higher EV than calling or checking down your hand for its showdown value.

I wouldn't do that there in either case. I think you have enough showdown value with KK and Q8 to play it normally. If you have 66 or AK, that would really be turning your hand into a bluff.

I wouldn't call that a bluff unless you put the other player on the bottom end of the straight or two pair or something. Even if they do have they might still call.

I'd say a bluff would be more like if had been on a draw that didn't come, but a potential straight card did. You'd been acting like you were on a draw the whole time, so if you act like you have the nuts it would be believable and they may give up a pair or A high.

Well that's just a bluff. "Turning your hand into a bluff" is overplaying a hand that has real showdown value to push someone off a better hand.

to be honest is not going to bluff ... not because we need experience and no balls needed ... and I think that neither is too good to go to bluff very often ... if you have not come across anything and a player who has something you pay for what? lost some chips relieve!

i never bluff.........somtimes i over value my hand

CostyBigRoyal09 said:

to be honest is not going to bluff ... not because we need experience and no balls needed ... and I think that neither is too good to go to bluff very often ... if you have not come across anything and a player who has something you pay for what? lost some chips relieve!

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NO FAIR.....I was getting ready to say that!you stole my post.

I wouldnt have used the KK example because in that example KK is a
strong hand and you are very unlikely to make a 2 pair fold, especially
on that kind of a board, when you probably raised preflop and the other
play expects you to have either a high pocket pair of Ace with a high
kicker. Now, what the phrase means is basically what you tried to ilistrate.
Your hand, whatever it might be, is played as if it were a strong one, but
not too exagerated cause you dont want to be cause, in order for the other
guy to BELIEVE YOU HAVE IT, and once this happens you have converted
what was once a weak hand, into what now is a very strong bluff.

KK trying to represent a straight.

I think the example could have been 2X or 4X or 7X or maybe AK representing a straight.
Because in these examples you missed or may not have the best hand but could Bluff a player having any of the pairs being represented on the board (being a 9 was the high card).
That would be my definition of turning a hand into a bluff.

You have potential > don't make the hand or your hand turns Bad > a scare or situational card comes on the board > you represent that you made your hand with that card.

Just my definition.
Others may very there opinion on this definition.


Thoughts to think about:

KK and a big bet >>>> Board - 7s,8c,2h,4s, 9d
If they hit the straight they will Call you. (you lose)
If they have any of the small pairs they may Fold. (No Profit)
If they have two pair (you may push them off it and you win)
If they have a set (you may push them off it and you win)

Good Question.

Bluffing is part of the game and at some stage during a game I would say you would need to bluff to win. If I have a big starting hand e.g. AK and I have bet 3 or 4 BB's everybody knows my hand is strong. If the flop comes out Q, 7, 3 I am going to bet up to half the pot to try and scare somebody with a pair of 7's or 3's away. I find that it usually works. The problem is if any of your callers have hit a Q. I would rarely bluff with nothing.

i would through a couple big tester bets that are high enuf for the player to raise letting me no he has it and not betting too much to were it would hurt me. you have to play this hand very careful because you can save yourself alot of money by saving your self money if it makes sense

I was wondering:

1) My friend once told me that the worst cards are the best to bluff with (IE he bluffed against me with 29 once and just made me fold right away (he knew my tendencies). The thing is I never play 47, but I can see myself bluffing with it when pretty much the whole table has folded to me and the button. Are the worst cards really the best to bluff with?

2) Also, let's say I have K7 off and the flop comes out 2 7 8 (different suits). Three players (including me) are in the pot, and I checked on the button. I have a below average chipstack, and am playing against two players with average chipstacks. I read that medium sized chipstack people tend to make more careful decisions on average. Should I shove, or at least bet?