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JKawai
Rock Star
Silver Level
I have the chart from pokerology that tells me the odds of drawing after the turn and river combined.
So far I have been basing my bet sizing on these odds, however WiltOnTilt made an interesting point in a video about how actually this is wrong because of course you're going to have to bet again on the Turn!
For example if I've 8 outs (open straight) then my odds of making this by the river are 2.17:1. Originally if the pot were $100 I would have bet $85 in this situation to offer my odds, but then if it goes to the next street... I'll have to bet again...
However, perhaps the whole point of betting the 2.17:1 odds is to try to get opponent to fold as well? Because they ARE your odds whether you hit or not. So if they call, it's obviously profitable for them, meaning they have those odds or better (hypothetically speaking).
So I'm not sure whether to use the combined turn and river odds when betting on the flop, or to just use the flop to turn, and turn to river odds respectively.
If the latter, I don't think I'm going to have much luck. That would throw away all inside straight draws with 10.5:1 odds!
Thoughts?
So far I have been basing my bet sizing on these odds, however WiltOnTilt made an interesting point in a video about how actually this is wrong because of course you're going to have to bet again on the Turn!
For example if I've 8 outs (open straight) then my odds of making this by the river are 2.17:1. Originally if the pot were $100 I would have bet $85 in this situation to offer my odds, but then if it goes to the next street... I'll have to bet again...
However, perhaps the whole point of betting the 2.17:1 odds is to try to get opponent to fold as well? Because they ARE your odds whether you hit or not. So if they call, it's obviously profitable for them, meaning they have those odds or better (hypothetically speaking).
So I'm not sure whether to use the combined turn and river odds when betting on the flop, or to just use the flop to turn, and turn to river odds respectively.
If the latter, I don't think I'm going to have much luck. That would throw away all inside straight draws with 10.5:1 odds!
Thoughts?