Originally Posted by Bengals_Boy
Is it true that razz is more difficult to play than holdem.Ive heard that in almost evey chat at razz mtts.Is it just cause they cant play holdem and cant deal with the whole no limit aspect of it.I know its very frusterating game(razz )and ive never got so mad over getting pairs and face cards but atleast you get a taste of their hand.
As others have said already, both styles of game are 'difficult' in mastering - but each one in it's own unique way.
You can't really compare no limit games to limit games alone. How does limit holdem compare to limit razz? Our casino periodically runs no limit 7 stud MTT's. That's nothing more than nlhe on steroids. There are a number of 'no limit' games: holdem, omaha, omaha h/l, 2-7 single draw. Then there are 'limit' games including those just mentioned, plus stud, studE, razz, HORSE, SHOE, 2-7 triple draw, and a few more. The PL players are a third unique grouping. The ones who play well and understand PL, and those online who use PL to get everyone committed to ALL-IN as quickly as possible. The PL games provide a medium ground between limit and NL.
Just something I've observed over years of playing is that many holdem players might really do better at stud type games. Why? They get bored playing one game and have to learn to multi-table. Few will sit through folding 85% of their hands playing one table. Then others prefer the challenge and adrenalin rushes associated with NL games. They live for it. More power to 'em - play on.........
Multi-tabling in stud style games I would NEVER recommend, at least not more than 2 or 3. You are making decisions on every street. You need to see (and recall) the cards that have been in play on the board. You even get one street of 'little bets' (or 'low bets') to see cards. In stud, razz, triple draws, horse, etc, you get to play a much greater percentage of hands. Most players are involved to some point in at least 60-70% of their hands.
I don't find any one game more frustrating than any other game. In holdem, you can't hit the flops or draws. In stud you're facing rainbow rags while others get dealt rolled up A's. Badugi hands are regularly suited with pairs. Razz hands with 2 bricks in the hole. Three suited, un-connected stud hand starters. But then, no different than holdem, some days you just can't miss.
Play the games you enjoy, not what 'everyone else' seems to be playing.