TPC 10nl 4 Feb 2010

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Ran into a few good spots. Hopefully we can get a good discussion going on. Watch the video and post in the thread.

http://vimeo.com/9217231
 
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I will def. check this out in a bit. Thanks Trigga for getting back into video action!
 
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Anyone? Buelller... Bueller... Bueller?
 
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I plan to watch this. No doubt about it. Hopefully later tonight or tomorrow.
 
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Can you define your stats plz.

Also, at 4.20 on table corwin, it is folded to you in the sb and you have A8 and just fold to the bb. I no you cannot steal a lot at this level but this is the perfect oppertunity to do so. Most players are nits anyway and you will get away with it a lot. Not to mention your hand is still playable and does have value.
 
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Yeah, I noticed the A8 hand too. I was in the process of getting a back up table and talking while shooting the video. I think I auto folded that A8 and as soon as it folded I knew I missed a spot to steal. That's what happens if you aren't focusing 100%, you miss spots like that.

My hud stats are:

Fold to 3 bet / Fold to Flop bet / Fold to Turn Bet
Steal / 3 Bet / CB Flop / WTSD
VPIP / PFR / AF / hands
 
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Most of this is disagreeing with plays you made, but I think you played much better than I do. You played sensibly and didn't do anything crazy. Still, I think there were a lot of more +EV lines you could have taken.

1:59
Flatting AQo OOP (top left table).

Not sure that I agree with ever flatting OOP, are you planning to play it fit or fold?

13:30
Bottom left table.
88 gets 3bet.
You raise to 40c, 1 caller, raise to 70c, 1 caller, on you. 30c more into a currently $2.20 pot and the only player behind you just called your first raise. Standard set mine, imo.

19:00
Bottom right.
KJs, top pair.
I think when he raises you your equity isn't great. His range does have JT, sets, even the occasional QQ+ (just because he plays so bad) but you're still ahead because I think there are draws and QJ in his range also. I actually 3bet shove this flop. On the turn you hit your K which puts you ahead of JT but it completes both the flush and straight draws, it's a bad card but I'm still shoving, he calls too much and you've got top two pair. I don't know exactly how to figure out your equity against his range since we're relying so much on him having stupid hands, but I think it's fairly safe to get it in at any point in this hand.

23:00
Bottom left.
Debating blind stealing with 76s?
I think that should be one of the better hands in your range.

33:00
Bottom left
66 on that flop against some who cbets 100%, it's an easy call but I think raising is really bad because you're paying off bigger pairs and folding out overcards. I call and either call my way to the river if he bluffs multiple streets often, or more likely, I fold if he bets the turn again.

38:00
Top right
Min raise with AJo UTG.
I think raising to 40c would be better, but folding would be an acceptable alternative to a min-raise. What's the plan post-flop and how are you better off having min-raised?

40:00
Top left
99 3bet squeezes then raises a light 4bet.
You're a legend for doing that at $10nl and having it be the right play, but I think this is horribly -EV. Typically even if it doesn't make sense, I give them credit for it unless they've shown a tendency to make really loose plays in the same situation. Yeah, it doesn't make sense that he has TT+, but you're assuming he knows what he's doing.
 
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Most of this is disagreeing with plays you made, but I think you played much better than I do. You played sensibly and didn't do anything crazy. Still, I think there were a lot of more +EV lines you could have taken.

Hey, no worries that's the point of this video, to get some good discussion going on.

1:59
Flatting AQo OOP (top left table).

Not sure that I agree with ever flatting OOP, are you planning to play it fit or fold?

Yes, I just sat at that table, my hud hasn't even come up yet, and I have no clue what the ranges of the players are. At 10nl some players do odd things to three bets. As we learned in that hand one of the limper half stackers ends up three bet shoving and gets snapped called by the original raiser, who has 66.


13:30
Bottom left table.
88 gets 3bet.
You raise to 40c, 1 caller, raise to 70c, 1 caller, on you. 30c more into a currently $2.20 pot and the only player behind you just called your first raise. Standard set mine, imo.

Agreed, probably should have set mined there.

19:00
Bottom right.
KJs, top pair.
I think when he raises you your equity isn't great. His range does have JT, sets, even the occasional QQ+ (just because he plays so bad) but you're still ahead because I think there are draws and QJ in his range also. I actually 3bet shove this flop. On the turn you hit your K which puts you ahead of JT but it completes both the flush and straight draws, it's a bad card but I'm still shoving, he calls too much and you've got top two pair. I don't know exactly how to figure out your equity against his range since we're relying so much on him having stupid hands, but I think it's fairly safe to get it in at any point in this hand.

Yeah, I need to play these spew tard idiots better. However, not sure he is calling a three bet shove on the flop unless I'm beat. Who knows with this guy though. He's already shown us that we can't give him credit for a hand. To be honest I wasn't worried about a flush draw too much. Once I had top two, I wasn't going to fold against him. I probably should have shoved the turn though for sure.

23:00
Bottom left.
Debating blind stealing with 76s?
I think that should be one of the better hands in your range.

Wasn't really debating. Just wanted to see what I was up against.

33:00
Bottom left
66 on that flop against some who cbets 100%, it's an easy call but I think raising is really bad because you're paying off bigger pairs and folding out overcards. I call and either call my way to the river if he bluffs multiple streets often, or more likely, I fold if he bets the turn again.

Yes, I agree with what you are saying here and that's a line we could take. We also have someone to act behind us, I've found in spots like that, you can usually take the pot down right there by raising or fire again on the turn if he called and then checks the turn. He's not that aggressive, I could have flatted there, I'll experiment with that line in the future.

38:00
Top right
Min raise with AJo UTG.
I think raising to 40c would be better, but folding would be an acceptable alternative to a min-raise. What's the plan post-flop and how are you better off having min-raised?

Kind of a habit I guess, because later on we'll min raise with AA ect. It's just changing up our raise pf. Also, I can get away from the had easier. Plan is just to see a flop and see who is in the pot with us. Not really planing on hanging in the pot too long. We did get three bet there. Later on we do that with a big pair and get three bet again, we can set ourselves up to jam. I've also found that you min raise PF and someone flats then c bet the flop you can take the pot down right away, they tend to give you credit for a big pair.

Folding AJ was also fine there as well. Which I also do.

40:00
Top left
99 3bet squeezes then raises a light 4bet.
You're a legend for doing that at $10nl and having it be the right play, but I think this is horribly -EV. Typically even if it doesn't make sense, I give them credit for it unless they've shown a tendency to make really loose plays in the same situation. Yeah, it doesn't make sense that he has TT+, but you're assuming he knows what he's doing.

It's not a standard play that we are going to make all the time. However, I had squeezed the same two players not long before. On 10nl they don't really know what they are doing and I'm banking on that. Even though they don't know what they are doing, their plays usually make sense. At this level if it doesn't make sense it's usually a bluff or they are very weak. However, they don't fold so we need to make sure we are ahead of their range.

My take on it was that was his way of adjusting to being squeezed time and time again and he was taking a stand. I actually screwed up, I meant five bet shove and just doubled his four bet, but it worked out in the end.

That was not a play we want to make all the time by any means, not with 99 anyway.
 
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