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ive played 100$ tournaments for the past 2 years, and am contemplating delving into the murky world of cash games

you all seem a knowledgable bunch and im looking for tips, advice ,anything at all to make my time as profitable as possible.

whats the main difference ?
should i be widening my opening range ?





 
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omg my typings terrible

its supposed to be 100 per cent , not 100 dollar buy in tourneys.

i wish
 
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Its about getting max value...

obv you wouldnt be widening your range, there are no blind increases so your not under any pressure to make plays..

in tourneys its about accumulation and survival, in cash, you cant get knocked out, so get maximum value out of everything..
 
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I agree with the previous poster - it is about getting max. value out of everything you do, including bluffing. A continuation bet and semi-bluffing is almost standard at cash games. You also should be a little more cautious about the all-in move in cash games. Typically, you will only go all in in cash games after a 3 bet, etc. (And of course, only if you have the nuts) All in bluffs can be very expensive at cash games.
 
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Stacks get deeper, hand reading gets more important, you actually have implied odds.
 
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Just watch Phil Helmuth videos from when he plays in cash games. ie High stakes poker, just don't do that and you will be fine.
 
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nice one guys

im taking it onboarb

i ll be paying .10 .25 NL to start
 
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cash?

Ring games are an entire different animal.I would read up on ring strategies before I delve deep into it.Theres different strategy for 6man 9man games at different levels.Do your homework.!
 
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Ring games are an entire different animal.I would read up on ring strategies before I delve deep into it.Theres different strategy for 6man 9man games at different levels.Do your homework.!


i am doing my homework, this is part of it,

im not going to go in without taking the best strategy and advice i can find
 
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If you've been playing tourney-style poker, there's some adjustments you'll need to be making for sure.

ie. Bet-sizing for one,... when you're betting out on the flop with say TPTK, or TPGK, you'll want to size your bets bigger than you would in a tournament setting, especially if there are potential draws on the board as your opponents will often be getting good implied odds.

I too would suggest reading up on it a bunch. I personally watch a bunch of strategy videos on cash game play and it's always enlightening.... ie. I was watching one this weekend about 'check-raising',.. but it went into far greater detail with many different scenarios than I would typically consider.

GL on the tables!
 
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I was surprised at the stakes you were going to start playing at. You need a minimum of $600.00 to outlast the down curves, even when you're experienced.
Start at the .01/.02 and if you are successful there, then got to .02/.04. etc.
Full Tilt has an academy that is free. Chris Ferguson has a segment on bankroll management. It's very good. Start there

I agree with the reading and video watching. There's no such thing as instant painless success in poker or any other trade. It always takes bookwork and experience. No silver bullet..
 
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nice one guys

im taking it onboarb

i ll be paying .10 .25 NL to start

You have a $750 bankroll?

nope i have 150 dollar bankroll

Fixed, for accuracy.

whats up with the attitude ?

it's not attitude, it's just that every day people ask about this, and there is so much advice on BRM if you look for it.

Personally, I want at least 20 buy-ins for each level before taking shots at the next level.
But saying that, Im rolled for 50NL, but as Im learning ring/cash, Im still playing at 2nl/5nl with shots at 10nl just to get some practice in. I suggest you do the same.gl
 
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some good advice coming through here.

sounds like i ll need to compromise, i ll take a shot at a 2 hour session at the .
2nl/5nl.

i ll let you know how i get on.
 
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Stacks get deeper, hand reading gets more important, you actually have implied odds.

This sums it up really. There is more postflop play too because the stacks are deeper which ties in with the hand reading.

Things like pot size manipulation also become more important.

With $150, if you are just starting out, you shouldn't be playing 25nl. You could very easily go broke in 1 day.
 
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nope i have 150 dollar bankroll

Your even slightly short for 10nl but I would start there as a compromise if I were you.

Or if 10nl and below is too tedious for you then just play SNG's untill your BR is large enough to play 25nl.
 
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Pardon my ignorance , but 5nl,10nl is that cent or dollar
 
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0.05 and 0.10 cents

currently 1 hour into a 2 hr session showing a 3.50 dollar profit
 
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ppl are buying in for 2 bucks, losing, reloading for 2 bucks, overbetting their hands when they have something,

no hands of note, just using position to my advantage.

pretty boring
 
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I suppose it can be boring. The thrill of making big moves late in a tourney is what some people love about poker. I personally hate as I can't get a person back if they donk me. You have to go home.

This is the world of cash poker and you will get used to it. You play and play and play, not for a big score but for this little pot and occasionaly that big pot. It does add up though.

keep playing position and good hands at that level and you should be fine.

The biggest cash game lessons I can give you is TPTK is dangerous and control the pot. Big hand big pot-small hand small pot.
 
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