Thoughts on these pocket cards?

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1) Which hand ranks higher? A 7 (unsuited) vs. 10 8 (suited)
2) Ace 5 unsuited. Fold?
3) King 7 suited. Fold?
4) 3 5 suited. Limp in? Or always fold?
5) Thoughts on 7 10 unsuited ?
6) Why is K 5 was actually worse than Q 5 ?
7) Is 9 10 unsuited junk ? Fold ?

You get 3 9.
You fold.
Flop contains 3 9.
This is just part of the game, right?
Fold was the right move, over time....

Please distinguish bw the following:
A 5
K 5
Q 5
J 5
10 5



Thoughts on these hands on a table of 3-5 players.
(all unsuited)
J 4
7 9
K 9
A 3
7 8
 
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1) Which hand ranks higher? A 7 (unsuited) vs. 10 8 (suited)
2) Ace 5 unsuited. Fold?
3) King 7 suited. Fold?
4) 3 5 suited. Limp in? Or always fold?
5) Thoughts on 7 10 unsuited ?
6) Why is K 5 was actually worse than Q 5 ?
7) Is 9 10 unsuited junk ? Fold ?

You get 3 9.
You fold.
Flop contains 3 9.
This is just part of the game, right?
Fold was the right move, over time....

Please distinguish bw the following:
A 5
K 5
Q 5
J 5
10 5



Thoughts on these hands on a table of 3-5 players.
(all unsuited)
J 4
7 9
K 9
A 3
7 8

1) A7o
2) It depends
3) It depends, usually fold
4) It depends, usually fold
5) Garbage
6) What? K5 is better than Q5
7) It depends, can be good for a BTN open/blind steal

In all cases A5 > K5 > Q5 > J5 > T5

J 4o
7 9o
K 9o
A 3o
7 8o
Order of these is A3o > K9o > 79o > 78o > J4o (J4o really is utter garbage) but it depends on the situation OFC 78o will play better than A3o in some situations like when implied odds are high.

That was fun, did I pass?
 
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You get 3 9.
You fold.
Flop contains 3 9.
This is just part of the game, right?
Fold was the right move, over time....
Correct, you can't base your decisions on single outcomes like this it's the same as saying I lost with AA twice in a row so I should fold them next time.
 
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Also all the hands you have listed in the first set play differently depending on stack size, position and point of the tourney you are at...
 
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You get 3 9.
You fold.
Flop contains 3 9.
This is just part of the game, right? -- Yes
Fold was the right move, over time...

Try not to over think or even think @ all about the results of the hand after you fold.

If it's the correct play & a +EV play in the long run, then you have nothing to worry about.

Being "results oriented" will only get you frustrated. A lot of times leading you to play hands that you shouldn't.
 
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J 4o
7 9o
K 9o
A 3o
7 8o
Order of these is A3o > K9o > 79o > 78o > J4o (J4o really is utter garbage) but it depends on the situation OFC 78o will play better than A3o in some situations like when implied odds are high.

Does the "o" mean unsuited?
 
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Does the "o" mean unsuited?


"o" stands for off as in offsuit. Not the same suit.

And TBH ill play most any hand depending on my chip stack, position at the table during that hand and the bet size.
 
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1) Which hand ranks higher? A 7 (unsuited) vs. 10 8 (suited)
2) Ace 5 unsuited. Fold?
3) King 7 suited. Fold?
4) 3 5 suited. Limp in? Or always fold?
5) Thoughts on 7 10 unsuited ?
6) Why is K 5 was actually worse than Q 5 ?
7) Is 9 10 unsuited junk ? Fold ?

You get 3 9.
You fold.
Flop contains 3 9.
This is just part of the game, right?
Fold was the right move, over time....

Please distinguish bw the following:
A 5 (Play, wouldn't risk more than 2 BB, maybe 3 BB if suited & in Late Position)
K 5 (Play if suited, wouldn't risk more than 2 BB)
Q 5 (Maybe if suited & in Late Position with no raises)
J 5 (Fold)
10 5 (Fold)



Thoughts on these hands on a table of 3-5 players.
(all unsuited)
J 4 - fold
7 9 - play (no more than 2 BB)
K 9 - play
A 3 - play
7 8- play (no more than 2 BB); high cards are more valuable with less players but if you can let the hand develop, then this could turn into a monster!
 
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Your questions suggest that you don't know enough about the game to even be asking the right questions. I'm not trying to be condescending by the way (I just started learning about poker myself), but I think you should read some books on the basics of poker strategy just to understand what to think about when playing and then you will be asking questions that can be answered more specifically.

For all the hands you list, it depends on position, opponents, and cash stacks. If you do get some beginner poker books, these will be some of the first things you learn about.
 
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You will find that there are many stratergies for each hand dealt.And your stratergy will change depending on your position,stack sizes and the type of table you are playing
 
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Your questions suggest that you don't know enough about the game to even be asking the right questions. I'm not trying to be condescending by the way (I just started learning about poker myself), but I think you should read some books on the basics of poker strategy just to understand what to think about when playing and then you will be asking questions that can be answered more specifically.

For all the hands you list, it depends on position, opponents, and cash stacks. If you do get some beginner poker books, these will be some of the first things you learn about.

I see nothing wrong with a beginner trying to narrow down their range at all. Perfectly sensible question that can be answered very specifically. More so then most other beginner questions.


To the OP: Search this forum for something like "Opening Hand Ranges" and that'll be a good place to start. You will always find reasons to veer away from a set range but its a good base line.
 
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Being "results oriented" will only get you frustrated. A lot of times leading you to play hands that you shouldn't.

This 110%! Forget those hands where you would've flopped a monster immediately! All that will lead to is you thinking "Well, the last time I folded 74s I would've flopped a straight flush, therefore i'm gonna play this one"

And what comes on the flop? AT9 rainbow of course!
 
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Which hand ranks higher? A 7 (unsuited) vs. 10 8 (suited) - Very deep-stack and depending on villains ranges (if they are nits and have A/7 dominated) then i would want 10/8s usually over A/7. Otherwise A/7.

2) Ace 5 unsuited. Raise 3 BB on BTN/SB
3) King 7 suited. Raise 3 BB on BTN/SB (depending on villains)
4) 3 5 suited. Always fold unless 2+ people have limped with 100bb+ each.
5) Thoughts on 7 10 unsuited ? Run for the hills.
6) Why is K 5 was actually worse than Q 5 ? Is it lol?
7) Is 9 10 unsuited junk ? Raise 3 BB in SB/BTN.

You get 3 9.
You fold.
Flop contains 3 9.
This is just part of the game, right?
Fold was the right move, over time.... yes it was

Please distinguish bw the following:
A 5 Raise BTN/SB (if it was suited, CO as well)
K 5 Sb raise against Tags/Nits
Q 5 - SB raise against Tags/nits
J 5 -Sb raise against Nits
10 5 -Sb raise against Nits



Thoughts on these hands on a table of 3-5 players.
(all unsuited)
J 4 - Raise SB against Nits
7 9 -Raise Sb against Nits
K 9 - Raise BTN, SB
A 3 - Raise BTN, SB
7 8 - Raise SB
 
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Is this tournament or ring game, but most importantly as some have pointed out is the action before you act and the type of players still left to act.
 
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I see nothing wrong with a beginner trying to narrow down their range at all. Perfectly sensible question that can be answered very specifically. More so then most other beginner questions.

Fair enough, I don't see anything wrong with that either, but I still think getting a broader understanding of the game first is better than learning on a hand by hand, situation by situation basis right away. If you're just asking about hands with no regard to position, then you need only study any article, video, or whatever on preflop play and your game is immediately improved
 
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then you need only study any article, video, or whatever on preflop play and your game is immediately improved

Can anyone suggest a good video about preflop play?
 
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If you search the site there is a ton of info from starting hands to the ev of each hand by position. Just remember your starting hands should be based on the players at the table with you not solely on hand rankings
 
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Can anyone suggest a good video about preflop play?

Pokerstrategy's Equilab program has a bunch of hand charts for LAG, TAG, and so on. Check that out for a good preflop ranging idea. 3bet, 4bet iso etc etc.
 
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Playing a $1/$2 NL table with $300 max buy-in.

I had pocket 5's.
Almost everyone folds but then there is a $15 raise.
I folded. I think it would have been head's up.

I know it all depends on the context, but in general,
was this a particularly great or particularly stupid move?
 
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What position were you in and the raiser?
 
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I might have been near the blinds at the end, and he was a few people ahead of me.
 
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Ok, here is my two or three cents;

1. Buy a copy of Doyle Brunsons Super system (preferably Volume one and two). This is the poker bible for good reason. Keep in mind it is heavily geared towards cash; that being said, it also covers MTT and other poker games. Those other games can actually help your NLHE game as well. For example, I found Omaha to be particularly useful (I played the Carbon free games) as you see far more than just one and two pair hands at showdown. You get a good flavor of unexpected st8's and other hands you might only see on occasion in hold em.

2. Do not worry about individual hands so much as like-hand groups and hand ranges (especially of your opponents). So.....

Here are Sklansky hand groups; David Sklansky and Mason Malmuth assigned each hand to a group, and proposed all hands in the group could normally be played similarly. Stronger starting hands are identified by a lower number. Hands without a number are the weakest starting hands. As a general rule, books on Texas hold'em present hand strengths starting with the assumption of a nine or ten person table. The table below illustrates the concept (again, O = offsuit, S = same suite):
 

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the most important thing you need to know about poker is that you are playing your opponent not your cards.

Against one opponent I can open with 53s, while against other I may fold QQ.

So, the answers to your questions are really "depends, depends, and depends".

Table dynamics, op type, your skill level are all important things you need to take into account
 
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Playing a $1/$2 NL table with $300 max buy-in.

I had pocket 5's.
Almost everyone folds but then there is a $15 raise.
I folded. I think it would have been head's up.

I know it all depends on the context, but in general,
was this a particularly great or particularly stupid move?

Folding 55 here is a good move unless you are a very skilled post-flop player, as small pairs are very hard to play post-flop if you don't make your trips.

You can also re-raise this hand preflop as you are representing a monster, but then you must c-bet strong post-flop with almost any board. You'll be surprised how often your opponent will fold with a flop like AT7 rainbow.

Good luck.

-HooDooKoo
 
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