Are these GENERALLY proper folds? GENERALLY

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LIVE CASH game.
$1/$2 NL
V1 is TAG and Small stack.
V2 is TAG and Big stack.
Hero is medium stack.
Limited information available.
"X" means I do not remember the card. It is gone forever.

Here are 7 folds
Which of these were STUPID folds?
Which of these should have been a raise?
Just in GENERAL, not strict rule.
This is my first time playing in very long time, and just want BASICS.

1) A6o in EP. Hero folds.
Do you GENERALLY fold this? GENERALLY SPEAKING?

2) Hero gets TT in BB.
V1 bets $14.
Hero folds.

3) Hero gets A9o in BB.
V1 bets $6.
V2 bets $17.
Hero folds.

4) Hero gets 99 in LP.
V1 bets $15. Hero calls.
Hero misses the flop. V2 bets $20.
Hero folds.

5) Hero gets KJs in SB.
V1 bets $10. Hero folds.

6) Hero gets 44 in OTB.
V1 bets $20.
V2 calls
Hero folds.

7) Hero gets KQo in OTB.
Hero does PF raise of $10
3 callers. Pot $40
Flop = 365
V1 bets $20.
Hero folds.

Which of these were STUPID folds?
Which of these should have been a raise?
 
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#5 is a call to see the flop at the very least.
$1/$2 Live cash game and you said you were medium stack? So lets assume you have about 50-60BB left, so between $100 and $120 in your stack , to call the $10 to see a flop and hopefully either flush, or get a flush draw (preferably 2 cards are your suit to have a comfortable flush draw), is worth it. If you hit your flush, you have the second nut flush, only an ace high flush will win against yours, so you're more likely better off paying the $10 here to see a flop and hope. If oyu miss, you miss.

I mean, you're willing to call $15 for pocket 9s in LP, so play your KJs in SB. Yes, you need to act first, but the flops going to give you most of your information. If you flush / get a draw, or even top pair, then bet.

The reason i don't like $1/$2 LIVE CASH games is because its bingo, and not big money. Raising 10BB preflop is normal, making 3 bets even bigger etc and next thing your $1/$2 game has bigger pots/raises preflop then your average $2/$5. This is what I noticed at my casino, it's all bingo and gambling with $1/$2 and I avoid it like the plague.


My advice, you get scared away from bets when you have decent hands.
5BB is a normal raise, don't be scared to call it, and whilst you need to widen your range a bit, it doesn't mean play every hand, but this will all come with time practise and experience! I'm only 3 months into playing seriously (4-5times a week at the casino), and I have come such a long way in such a short time, but I'm no where near where I can be. Just practice!

Also, for future reference, if you can remember flops specifically, it would help! The more infortmation the better!
 
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Hand 2 and Hand 6 should be calls for setmining purposes. Hand 4 is close, it depends on the board. How many overcards?
 
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1. It's a good fold, once you start improving your pre-flop and post-flop skills, then it's playable, but still a good fold nonetheless.

2. Super nitty, I'd 3-bet at least.

3. Good fold, you don't want to play a bloated pot out of position with A9o.

4. Pre-flop, I'd 3-bet. I'd stay in the hand against 1 over but be more cautious with 2 overs on board. Play is usually decided by your read on villain. With no read and 2 overs on board, good fold. If only 1 over card on board, I'd probably call and see what villain does on the turn.

5. Super nitty, that's a call.

6. 10x bb on a small pocket pair, good fold. I can't imagine too many flops that I can call a c-bet with unless I set or get an open ended straight draw.

7. I think you can call for a turn card at least. Unless villain has 2 pair or better, hitting a K or Q on the turn is outside of villains range. Plus, it's possible that villain is drawing (pocket 4s? lol) and checks the turn if he misses, giving you a chance for a free river.
 
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On hand #2, I would call. If V1 bets $14 (7BB), then this tells me he has a higher PP than 10-10, so I am behind going into the flop. But, if I make trips, then I am likely to win a big pot as he will likely not fold with KK or AA on a board of 10-7-2.
 
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number 2 for sure . you could of re raised it as well. I also would of called number 5
 
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Don't you fold 1010 in this spot ever!!! Unless guy is proven nit that only raises jj or better... If flop comes high cards u can lay it down, but also i think the best play here is atleast a 2x reraise if he calls you see the board and if he reraises ur safe 2 assume he has you beat... 1010 is as close 2 premium as u can get.. Only 4 pps beat it preflop and any Aj,Aq,Ak is a race..
 
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Maybe calling with the 44s simply for a set or all checks bluff bet.. Ur on the button last 2 act see how everybody reacts 2 board.. 99 I'm also calling
 
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I always consider pot size with bet,I have folded small prs.IE;[ 2s thru 9s] when pot odds were low.But i have also called 3-5 times BB with small suited connectors,9-10, 10-J,J-Q,or small pairs 2s thru 10s only because the pot odds were right.Sometimes it pays off huge.
 
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Maybe calling with the 44s simply for a set or all checks bluff bet.. Ur on the button last 2 act see how everybody reacts 2 board.. 99 I'm also calling


You'd call a 10BB raise with 44s?
That seems very expensive, you hit a set 7:1.
So, that is 70BB to finally hit a set.
Guess it all depends on effective stacks.
 
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Ok, so folding TT was the worst move.
 
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Yep, I'd agree with that. I think you certainly folded the best hand on that one.

Yea, terrible position scared me off.
Like how do I play the flop in BB with pocket 10s?

Flop = 3 undercards, then I would just donk bet, right?

But what if flop = JXX or QXX or KXX or AXX
Or any combination of 2 or 3 broadway cards?

Then what? Check and get C-bet?
I'd have to donk bet ANY flop, and hope he folds?
 
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You'd call a 10BB raise with 44s?
That seems very expensive, you hit a set 7:1.
So, that is 70BB to finally hit a set.
Guess it all depends on effective stacks.
Ur not calling every single time with the 44s.. I'm saying with 3 or more in the pot.. The pot is already at $60 and if you hit ur 4 and they have op chances are if their terrible enough they will pay off, which at 1-2 most idiots will
 
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Ok, so if there are a ton of players,
and good effectives stacks,
it is ok to call a large PF bet in order to set mine with low PP..

I have only setmined with limping, but I might try this a little more.
 
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Yes.. Atleast this is how I usually play these pairs... Most folks arent gonna understand when the flop comes A94 with their AK that u might of hit that dirty 44... Just the other day I have KK in CO, Button has AA, BB has 55... I raise to $12, dumby on button says wow I have AA I cnt reraise ill just call, and BB calls.. Flop comes 58Qrainbow and bb leads out, I call, and AA decides now he will reraise half his stack... 55 shoves and I tank for a second realize this seems fishy they both cant have a Q... I fold and AA calls... 55 doubles up... Setmine explodes
 
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