Table to table MTT Question

So I been wanted to ask this question

-say you are at a MTT
-you just played about 20-30 hands
-you now have control of the table
-you are now the chip leader at the table ( not tournament leader)
-people are fearing you at the table due to your image, and control of the table.
-Then the screen to black , and you find your self now at a new table
with new people, and bigger chip stacks, and now your the table short stack.

what do I do, do i continue my game plan, or do I tighting up more until I get better stats on my new people. I find that I am having a hard time changing gears when going to a new table when I was in control of another table. How do I over come this

I would tighten up at first and get a feel for how the players play. If there's alot of tight players you can open up a little bit but when your short stacked your really going to get called light if someone has a big stack so add more value hands, and less bluffs unless they like to call and give up, like alot of fit or fold players do. Also how many big blinds do you have here determines alot so you can get better answers to your question.

personally i stick to my game plan and just adjust my plays to appropriate effective stack sizes.

Step 1: Create new table image.
Step 2: ...
Step 3: Profit!

MrEpic94 said:

personally i stick to my game plan and just adjust my plays to appropriate effective stack sizes.

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.... and adjust to the players on my new table (I would think this would be pretty obvious?).
.. being a 'shorter stack' is really only relevant to the size of the blinds (ie. if you're 50-60bb's deep & others are 60-90bb's deep... it doesn't really matter much at all).

Poker Orifice said:

.... and adjust to the players on my new table (I would think this would be pretty obvious?).
.. being a 'shorter stack' is really only relevant to the size of the blinds (ie. if you're 50-60bb's deep & others are 60-90bb's deep... it doesn't really matter much at all).

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well obv yes. But it takes 30 or so hands at the table before I can really make any player specific reads, even then those could be wildly off.

MrEpic94 said:

well obv yes. But it takes 30 or so hands at the table before I can really make any player specific reads, even then those could be wildly off.

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yeah even when you have the tournament leader at your table and continues to be very aggressive you really have to pick your spot to take on some chips. My last tournament I was remove to a new table with the top 3 in chips in the tournament, with only 1900 left with the blinds at 50/ 100, but when you have a person that is always 3 betting you really have to be carefull when picking a spot, but by that time it could be too late and I could be out blinded.

MrEpic94 said:

well obv yes. But it takes 30 or so hands at the table before I can really make any player specific reads, even then those could be wildly off.

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.. & that's why we're typically not 'jumping onto a new table & goin' aggro'

It always sucks when you are at a good table for you, and you get moved, but it is a regular event in tourneys, so you just have to try to adjust. It is hard to change gears when this happens, but it is also very possible to learn how to do this. I think the most important thing to consider is not to get negative in any way when this happens. You can be anywhere from slightly irritated to really pissed, and this will effect your play more than an over aggro chip leader. If you were big on chips when you got moved then you will have time to see how the table plays. See how the other players play each other, as well as how stacks are playing each other. Does the table seem to be afraid of the CL? Is a SS over aggro, and getting respect from the table. Their actions against each other can often tell you what they think of each other which can help you get a better heads up on the table dynamics as a whole. but you will have to start pretty much over, and thats just the way it is. Just make sure, as I said, not to get tilty in your play cause of the move.

Poker Orifice said:

.. & that's why we're typically not 'jumping onto a new table & goin' aggro'

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lol as a general rule im nittier than Fishman on the big game after he got up 140k

THERE IS NO HURRY. Apparently. you have a decent stack.Just take your time and study your opponents for an orbit or two. I'd go as far as saying to even lay down some halfway decent hands if you are doubtful for the first couple of orbits.
Secondly, take more notes as a general rule. This way you may have info on your opponents as soon as you land at the new table.

The common word in this thread is "adjust" and it would not hurt you to fold everything but great holdings for a circuit to see what's up at the new table concentrating on the players who are within 2 seats of your left and 2 seats to your right. The players whom you will steal from and those whom you must defend when in the blinds.

I wouldn't play the same way. Probably tighten up a little, and be wary of aggressive players.

Well for starters, being table short stack and being short stack are 2 different things. If you're table short stack, but you're still sitting on 50 BBs, then you have plenty of time to adjust to the new table/new players.

As for changing tables-how did you play when the MTT first start? Did you start making fancy moves on opponents with your reads on them? Did you start controlling the table from hand # 1? Probably not. Most likely, you probably played a little conservatively, took down big pots with big hands, and as the game progressed you got a feel for the opponent and tables and made the adjustments. Same thing for a new table. Adjust for stack vs blinds, tighten up a bit, observe/absorb, and then make the adjustments needed.