Some questions from a noob

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Let me state first the fact that i am a noob not a beginer, which means i am playing poker for a very long time but probably without improving (if i remember right it is around 6 years)

It is not because i tried hard and i couldnt, but sometimes i tried to improve, sometimes i discouraged, sometimes i even didnt play for months etc. It is not only for poker also valid for anything in my life, i am a student in a state university in my country (fortunately free) for 8 years and still 2 years away from graduating if everything goes perfect. I can easily discouraged from anything and everything and i got deppresive from time to time.

It is not that i am stupid but it is extremely hard for me to keep my psychology stable when things start to go wrong.

I don't really know level of my play, my friends who play poker says you are not bad but i can't know for sure because no way to determine it because i lost every bankroll i deposited so far and never ever withdraw anything, since poker is illegal in my country sometimes it is hard to deposit, sometimes it need third party services (netteller, ukash etc.) and the fact to start with i am student (contrary to i have to spare, i need money instead) i can't say i lost 1000 usd in total all 6 years. It still doesnt change the feeling that i will lose ever and forever.

From time to time i gathered some classical prejudices.

*Can it possible to earn some money in poker, i mean the amounts to sustain the life ?
*Is all poker sites are trustable, their algorithms etc, or at least the major ones ?
*If earning your life in online poker is possible, does that imply that also can i ? Is there ways to neutralize my pscyhological disadvantage or still win with it ?
*If all of the answers are positive, how should i start to improve my poker, how much time i should invest for how long to be enough for my criteria ?
*The chances for i deposit a big bankroll is pretty slim, and depositing and withdrawing will be problematic for me due to my country, free rolling or depositing small br like 20usd-50usd (depends on my situation) would it be problem ?

Thanks for your time, probably i have ruined.
 
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I think that youll not able to cash out or register on a pokersite.
Yes its possible to live from poker but its hard you need a lot of discipline and you need to win so you need nerves of steel
 
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I deposited on Fulttilt, pokerstars and Bets10 before, i have a friend cashedout 30k usd from bets10 in 7 months sum although i don!t know anybody cashed out from PS or FTP in my country i only know 3-5 players play there with only 2 winning.

My question would rather be is it possible to build up the personality to win ? Given my depressive mood.
 
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Trick is to focus on your decision making, rather than your results. Variance can be frustrating & focusing on results does nothing toward making you a better player.
 
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Kenzie seems to be a smart guy. Perhaps he will be your poker big brother ;)
 
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Believe

*Can it possible to earn some money in poker, i mean the amounts to sustain the life ? ... Yes

*Is all poker sites are trustable, their algorithms etc or at least the major ones ?
... You can trust the major ones and the rest of them also have good algorithms.

*If earning your life in online poker is possible does that imply that also can i ? ... Yes you can provided you are able to play online poker from your country

*Is there ways to neutralize my pscyhological disadvantage or still win with it?
... Can control, cannot neutralize but yes you can still win with it, will require practice though.

*If all of the answers are positive, how should i start to improve my poker, how much time i should invest for how long to be enough for my criteria ?
.... Read books and articles online, watch videos, discuss with friends, online community, analyze your play and try to keep improving.:trytofly:
 
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Maybe you should focus on improving enough to win at the low stakes levels. Before then, it seems pretty premature to think about making your living from poker.
 
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Last sunday i managed to be 4th on big weekly freeroll on bets10 poker. Won 150 euro, withdraw 100 of it, but lost the remaining 50 unfortunately :(
 
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I will not withdraw until my BR can sustain itself.

Variance is what you'll here the most about & Im always still learning after all these years. Your never to old to learn.
 
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Let me state first the fact that i am a noob not a beginer, which means i am playing poker for a very long time but probably without improving (if i remember right it is around 6 years)

It is not because i tried hard and i couldnt, but sometimes i tried to improve, sometimes i discouraged, sometimes i even didnt play for months etc. It is not only for poker also valid for anything in my life, i am a student in a state university in my country (fortunately free) for 8 years and still 2 years away from graduating if everything goes perfect. I can easily discouraged from anything and everything and i got deppresive from time to time.

It is not that i am stupid but it is extremely hard for me to keep my psychology stable when things start to go wrong.

I don't really know level of my play, my friends who play poker says you are not bad but i can't know for sure because no way to determine it because i lost every bankroll i deposited so far and never ever withdraw anything, since poker is illegal in my country sometimes it is hard to deposit, sometimes it need third party services (netteller, ukash etc.) and the fact to start with i am student (contrary to i have to spare, i need money instead) i can't say i lost 1000 usd in total all 6 years. It still doesnt change the feeling that i will lose ever and forever.

From time to time i gathered some classical prejudices.

*Can it possible to earn some money in poker, i mean the amounts to sustain the life ?
*Is all poker sites are trustable, their algorithms etc, or at least the major ones ?
*If earning your life in online poker is possible, does that imply that also can i ? Is there ways to neutralize my pscyhological disadvantage or still win with it ?
*If all of the answers are positive, how should i start to improve my poker, how much time i should invest for how long to be enough for my criteria ?
*The chances for i deposit a big bankroll is pretty slim, and depositing and withdrawing will be problematic for me due to my country, free rolling or depositing small br like 20usd-50usd (depends on my situation) would it be problem ?

Thanks for your time, probably i have ruined.

Well dude, in your post i can see a lot of things that are blocking your mind in my opinion...

First one, if you dont trust in poker sites, please dont play on it and take some money and go to play live and see the kind of things happening, like bad beats, hits on the river and so on...

It is very important you trust on what you are playing, because if you dont trust, how can you play well when the things go wrong? You'll get tilt so easy..

Second one, have you ever invest some time styding poker? If you're playing about 6 years and you think you dont know to play, i think you should take some books, articles or even videos (last step in my opinion), and invest your time (60/40 - studying/playing) on the beggining and then (30/70 - studying/playing). You really need to study to get skilled, no one grow up skilled, they need to learn with the best players.

Third one, probably you dont have patience, in that case, you should try to do a BR without deposit, just try to do a challenge to you, like 150$ just with freerolls. You said you lose every penny you deposit, so dont waste more until you get skilled. You need to training your patience.

Last one, if you aren't feel like to play poker, please dont play poker, just study in that moments or just take a break for some days or hours till you get motivated again. It is really important you are motivated, or you fall down in your golas. Make little challenges and try to get them.

I hope it helps dude! It is just my opinion, probably some people can not agree with me but i did that and i already have a nice BR without depositing...

Make challenges to yourself, get your goals!
 
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*Can it possible to earn some money in poker, i mean the amounts to sustain the life ?
-->Yes of course, it takes time. Just remember, garbage in = garbage out.
*Is all poker sites are trustable, their algorithms etc, or at least the major ones ?
--> You have to adjust.
*If earning your life in online poker is possible, does that imply that also can i ? Is there ways to neutralize my pscyhological disadvantage or still win with it ?
--> Yes, I have a friend who won at pokerstars. Anyone has a chance to win.
*If all of the answers are positive, how should i start to improve my poker, how much time i should invest for how long to be enough for my criteria ?
-->Read and play. It takes time.
 
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Noob is the wrong word for you my friend
Consider yourself as a entertainment player not a cash one , focus first on your studies
Than focus on work and than look to how you cope with those 2 things
Since you seem to be a very stressed out person I doubt it is smart to invest or try to live from poker

Only thing that will become the issue is gonna be an addiction and a madness to lose and invest even more , that's your profile . first life if you can be more lexaed and you grow older than you can focus on playing poker
 
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Read, watch, read, watch, talk, talk some more, post here.

The toughest thing I have tried to learn is to think situationally vs being results oriented. Even some of the pros here will tell that they work on that all the time. You take in all the info about a hand and the players and how they played. Into the next hand. If you won, or lost, big deal. Play the hand. If your decision making was good, and you lost money, that is going to happen. Fish will hit a few rivers. And that is when you make notes on someone with 3rd pair, a gutshot str draw and needs 2 cards to make a flush. Because they are NOT going to hit that more times then your TTP or TPTK with nut FD.

Good luck
 
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Thanks for the advices. Lots of them were halepfull and encouraging.
Some problems i see in myself are; when i lost 2-3 times big pots i switch to my C game without noticing and stay in there until i got tilted completely or quit it (which i don't if don't win big)
When i got tilted instantly i know it but i can't do anything about it, sit with more money and take bigger risks. And try to gamble it back (not win)

When in my C game i usually try to make bigger pots, which gives my opponents much easier game (if they have good hand just call if they don't just fold and easily winning) some pots i won some i lose but the ones i lose are much bigger. (This is spotted by a friend)
Secondly when in my C game i got a relatively strong hand (AQo) i raise and can't fold it when i reraised. There are times people all-in with A-9 or so against me, but some players do it with only better hands JJ+ and i don't observe much in that mood.

When i am well rested i can stay more in my A-game and somewhat resistant to be in C-game
When i am winning i usually tend to play better than i losing which will result in further winnings and losings.

I deposited 10euro and made it into 16euro in 7 hours of strict BR management and i was totally exhausted but i couldn't quit because of the reason 6*30 = 180 euro monthly wouldn't be enough, which was completely insane thought. Probably winning 10 euro when i have 50 euro BR is much more easier than winning 6 euro with 10 euro BR.

So lots of discipline problems going on :/
 
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I deposited 10euro and made it into 16euro in 7 hours of strict BR management and i was totally exhausted
Do you enjoy poker enough so that the idea of putting in 7 hours almost every day seems realistic? And don't forget that if this is playing time, you have to add more for study and review.

Probably winning 10 euro when i have 50 euro BR is much more easier than winning 6 euro with 10 euro BR.
This is incorrect. The main factor in how much you can expect to win on an average day is your relative skill level vs your opponents at the stakes you're playing, not the size of your BR.
 
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