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I feel stupid for not knowing this, but it's really got me wondering.

All preflop. If you take:

5h5d vs KcJc, it's ~49% vs 50%
5h5d vs KcJs, it's ~52% vs 48%

So, it's pretty much a coinflip. Standard.

AhQh vs KdJd, it's ~61% vs 39%
AhQd vs KsJc, it's ~62% vs 38%
AhQh vs KsJc, it's ~65% vs 35%
AhQd vs KsJs, it's ~58% vs 42%

So, we can pretty much say it's a ~60% vs 40% situation.

But why? Why is AQ that much of a favorite over 55? I'm sure the suited AQ's flush and straight potential does play a part. And it does block some of KJ's straight outs, but does it really make it that much more of a favorite over 55?

If we take:

AhQd vs 6s7s, it's ~58% vs 42%

Even though we aren't blocking any of 67's straight cards.

5c5s vs 6d7d, it's ~50% vs 49%

So, why is AQ more of a favorite over 55 in both vs KJ and 67 situations?

I'm guess that the reason is because AQ vs KJ/67 doesn't have to hit a pair to win. So, it leaves KJ/67 6 outs to pair up. However, isn't the same said for 55 vs KJ/67? 55 is still in the lead, so they both have 6 outs to pair up vs an already paired hand. Is it because AQ will have 6 outs to a redraw if KJ/67 pairs while 55 only has 2?
 
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For sure any As will give you a better chance to hit but all is preflop so its depend of your position and your opponement. Witch type he is. But your % seem good for me. For sure a pair will be in front over an AS thats why you need to raise and reraise KK AA for sure the little pair dont go in the pot to badbeat you. My question is where you pick all this % ???
 
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not the reason
AQ VS KJ
when KJ hit K or J is not secure a win.
there are still back str8 draw, over card draw can conterfeit the middle pair

but 55 when vs KJ, KJ hit K or J , 55 have only 2 outs left

if none of them hit, AQ, 55 directly take down the pot.

that is the only difference. about 1/6 or so chance AQ have a redraw.
 
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I feel stupid for not knowing this, but it's really got me wondering.

All preflop. If you take:

5h5d vs KcJc, it's ~49% vs 50%
5h5d vs KcJs, it's ~52% vs 48%

So, it's pretty much a coinflip. Standard.

AhQh vs KdJd, it's ~61% vs 39%
AhQd vs KsJc, it's ~62% vs 38%
AhQh vs KsJc, it's ~65% vs 35%
AhQd vs KsJs, it's ~58% vs 42%

So, we can pretty much say it's a ~60% vs 40% situation.

But why? Why is AQ that much of a favorite over 55? I'm sure the suited AQ's flush and straight potential does play a part. And it does block some of KJ's straight outs, but does it really make it that much more of a favorite over 55?

If we take:

AhQd vs 6s7s, it's ~58% vs 42%

Even though we aren't blocking any of 67's straight cards.

5c5s vs 6d7d, it's ~50% vs 49%

So, why is AQ more of a favorite over 55 in both vs KJ and 67 situations?

I'm guess that the reason is because AQ vs KJ/67 doesn't have to hit a pair to win. So, it leaves KJ/67 6 outs to pair up. However, isn't the same said for 55 vs KJ/67? 55 is still in the lead, so they both have 6 outs to pair up vs an already paired hand. Is it because AQ will have 6 outs to a redraw if KJ/67 pairs while 55 only has 2?


AQ versus 55 is more favorable because on the flop you have the opportunity to get a higher pair or higher two pairs using a combination or one of the A and Q. It also gives you opportunities to develop stronger hands with such as an opportunity to get a flush or straight if unsuited. If they are suited you could also potentially get a royal flush or a straight flush. Whereas with 55 the best is 4 of a kind. Followed by 3 of a kind and 2 pair. Even though you already have 1 pair it could be beaten by any other pairs higher than 55.

Also like you said AQ versus KJ or 67 all you need at a minimum is to have the A. Should it come down to high cards only or if a kicker is needed to determine a hand. Wtth the AQ it could also end up being the largest straight to win. Could be similar to the Kj vs 55 scenario except that K could be the kicker or card to determine the winner.
 
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is mathematics! it all depends on the number of desired cards in the deck you! Hence the chance! and the probability of sustainability hands! You need to understand! then the answer will be known to you! Good luck to you!
 
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Number of opponents that can get a better hand also affect your chanse to win.
 
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