the slowplay: when? if

rdm4k

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Hi Cardchatters,
I am here with a strategy query regarding the post flop action when hitting flop
I do know we must consider plenty variabiles but, supposed we could draw a standard situation as starting point: how do you evaluate flops/boards characteristics to consider when choosing whether or not it is the right moment for slowplaying ( do not scare oppo off; keep more than a ppl in; we do hold the most of cards).

I am not a fan of the slowplay and always chant "slowplay never pays" and genuinily feel pleasure when slowoplayers gets busted lol

That said I am aware that in some given circumstances, to HIDE the strenght of our hand is THE most CORRECT move or it is the optimal.
I do feel I am loosing tons of value not giving too much credit to the move.

ie: 9max mtt, UTG nitty raise 2x, all fold to hero sb. Hero flat JJ.
flpp connectet T89o.
Given a top range to utg who would likely cbet, HERO traps??
THoughts??


Also do anyone knows of reads about it? Random artivles online? book chapters??

Sounds as a straight forward matter but It is way more complex than that.

Agree?
any interesting point/consideratin where start from?
 
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I would not consider your example as a slow play, you are assuming you have the best hand and will not be beat, but your example is far from that.
To me slow playing or trapping is better used when you have the nuts without a real possibility of being drawn out on. If you have the nuts on the flop, but there a draws that can beat you if the come, then I would not slow play there. Of course there are a ton a factors that come into to play for making the decision to slow play or not, i.e. opponents style, table image, action so far at table, etc., but that is my short answer. Good Luck!
 
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The only time I slow play is if you flop the nuts, but that is a rare bird.

Its easy to say you flopped the nuts, but without knowing the opponents cards is there really a way to tell? This is increasingly problematic the higher the skill level.

ie. You flopped an Ace high flush, the nuts? Not always. Slow playing you could be allowing two pair or a set to draw cheap/free to a boat. Same goes for flopping a straight.

If you are playing short handed you could slow play some hands, but you are giving up a lot of value by not betting the flop and/or turn.

I think in the long run, always leading out and betting leads to positive results.
 
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