Blobweird123
CC's very own Dead Head
Silver Level
It's when a player just calls the big blind instead of raising.
Example:
I am first to act UTG and the blinds are .05/.10 and I put in .10 cents. That's limping. Generally its frowned upon because if a hand is good enough to limp then it should be good enough to raise.
Example:
I am first to act UTG and the blinds are .05/.10 and I put in .10 cents. That's limping. Generally its frowned upon because if a hand is good enough to limp then it should be good enough to raise.
micromachine
Legend
Silver Level
It's when you call the big blind pre-flop instead of raising.
There's open-limping where you are the first player to limp, and limping-behind where one or more players have already limped and you limp too.
Like Blob said it's generally bad and you should be looking to raise instead of limp.
There's open-limping where you are the first player to limp, and limping-behind where one or more players have already limped and you limp too.
Like Blob said it's generally bad and you should be looking to raise instead of limp.
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WizardRubic
Rock Star
Silver Level
Well, I'd generally agree with Blob and Micro on the limping issue but when are you limping?
If you're at a table that absolutely refuses to fold to any preflop raise of any size, you're in late position, and everyone else has limped, wouldn't it be worth limping if you have random crud? Since they're all gonna call your raise and chances are some of em have slightly better odds, some would say limping is the right play in the situation.
Even in that situation though, you could justify a raise. If you raise on every hand you go into, the blinds won't affect you as much. In fact, it might be better to play like that. If you do hit, you'll win a massive pot.
If you think others will fight back and start raising it up further, it might actually be better to limp. Your pot odds will be maintained due to everyone else limping and you'll see a cheap flop.
I dunno. How would a more experienced player play this? Seems like you could argue either point.
In general though, like I stated before, I do think Blob and Micro are right. It's most likely better not to limp.
micromachine
Legend
Silver Level
Yeah limping behind with implied odds hands like 76s on a passive cash table is one situation where limping can be OK. Not with random crud though, stuff like 72o should always be folded!
Open limping in cash games on the other hand is always bad (well, 99.9% of the time!).
bullishwwd
Legend
Loyaler
Although I would almost totally agree with you, one 'must' take in consideration the actual 'player types' at the table and the actual 'player tells' gained from earlier play ... there are definitely times when a 'limp' is a preferred play.
There are also instances when a "min-bet" UTG is even more appropriate, but like the "limp", generally is not a good idea. One is usually much better off "playing other players" (and their tendencies, stack size, position etc) rather than only playing one way based on the best poker books suggestions. One should adjust their poker play based on many factors so 'limping' does have a place, but seldom should be a norm.
Play to make the 'best decision' based on circumstances, player tendencies, your and their position, stack sizes, street being played, etc., not just focusing on being 'results oriented' and a "one rule fits all" because it usually does not.
Good luck too, Wally