Simpifying poker odds

Hi there. Im having a hard time explaining to a friend of mine ( hardly speaking english, so he cant read articles ) how to properly calculate the odds. For example 9 outs to 4:1. I'm explaining it to him but he has a really hard time understanding me and calculating it by himself. Can anybody here help me to simplify that to him, so he could understand it? I really ran out of ideas. Thanks in advance.

what he doesn't understand,how to calculate outs or what 4:1 means,? you might try to convert it to percentage if that is the problem? use rule of 2 and 4 with percentage and then covert it back to ratio

google it Poker Odds ... that should help explain it.

That he gets ( with percentages ). But Im trying to teach him how to play only +EV hands, since he mostly plays cash games, and I'm not advancing to anything with that.
He understands that in a pot of $100 if being asked to make a $10 bet its 10:1. But with outs he doesnt get it. Im trying to teach him how to compare those two and get the most of the game. In tournaments its not crucial if you ask me to calculate them every time, but if you are a regular cg player its vital for your bankroll.

He doesnt understand how to turn his outs into a ratio, for example, as I already have given, 9 outs gives you 4:1. I know how to calculate it, I just dont know how to put it into simple words. Im apparently a bad teacher.

Okay, not to sound agressive, but may I not get any advices on looking for it online. I find information I already know, and he cant understand it because he is not a native english speaker. I asked here if anyone can help me SIMPLIFY the information for him to acquire, not how to calculate them at all.

M8 sorry if i sound harsh but in order to explain someone odds/outs +EV you need to fully understand it and having it almost like a second nature, believe me tried few times to teach someone odds and outs and it was hell until i really really understand it...

Please dont take this wrong, it is just advice to save you and him lot of nerves... If you want i can try to make it the shortest and simpliest possible post (or PM) to get you to full understand it and then you can get him understand...

If he can calculate his outs, why not get him started with an odds chart so that he can use it while you continue to try to teach him?

I have one that I use (it also has a Sklansky starting hand groupings chart sorted by hand ranking, rather than group) but there are lots of them out there on t'interwebs.

I have made a pdf file of it and you can get it here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17020164/Sorted%20Starting%20Hands.pdf if you, or anyone else, would like to use it.

Other than that, have you tried to show him the rule of 2 and 4?

Henry Minute said:

If he can calculate his outs, why not get him started with an outs chart so that he can use it while you continue to try to teach him?

I have one that I use (it also has a Sklansky starting hand groupings chart sorted by hand ranking, rather than group) but there are lots of them out there on t'interwebs.

I have made a pdf file of it and you can get it here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17020164/Sorted Starting Hands.pdf if you, or anyone else, would like to use it.

Other than that, have you tried to show him the rule of 2 and 4?

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First, you didnt sound harsh @bullishwwd, its just kind of not my day.

Now, I already explained to him the 2 4 rule and he got it.
Thank you very much for that chart, I will ask him to use it for now, until he memorises it. I cant find a better way.
And Im capable of calculating the odds, I dont feel insulted by you in any way, Im just having a really hard time explaining it to him, because he always asks me stupid unrelated questions which I cannot answer and does his best to argue with me. We just cant get along. Or it might be because he is doing bad at math ( Not that I'm so good.. ).
Thank you both, once again. This chart will help a lot.

It's only to explain that the odds is a relation between the cards that will help him and the cards that will not.

Lets say he has 9 outs on the turn in a Heads up. So still there are 44 cards in the deck. So 9 cards will help him and 35 will not.

will : 9 cards
will not: 36 cards

The odds is:

will not : will

36 : 9

and you can reduce to: 36 / 9 : 9 / 9

4 : 1