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Steve_StudAA
Rock Star
Silver Level
OK so forget all the rigged talk I do.
What am I missing about this online game.
.50 SnG 1 table.
I have AK suited UTG1 and raise to 4 BB
4 callers
Flop 99A Rainbow
Only cards I fear is 9 AA at this point.
I go all in, I'm big stack, it's about 2/3 risk of my stack.
Only thing I have shown the table in previous hands have been big, QQ with q flop, and another flopped set of 4. Other than that, I have folded every other hand.
I get 2 callers, for all their stacks, I'm big stack.
Callers A5 and 44.
4 hits the river.
Questions. Who makes that flop call? What could I have done differently? Where is my mistake? I was thinking if I get called with what I feared, so be it, that's poker, I can easily live with that. But I wanted this hand done right here and now, not about to give anyone another running straight, or a 2 more chances to hit their set.
Hero is multi-tabling the same SnG, has played 100% of hands and called to them all to river and is about 75% win rate. Hero is not aggressive, no PFR, No first in betting, just calls everything every street, every bet. This was not the first hand either where all his chips were in the middle either. I crippled him early with QQ to his AQ all in. He had a slightly larger stack then. I'm rather surprised the A did not hit TBH, but that aside. He also had rivered a couple other times to stay alive.
Am I to aggressive with these big hands to early in the streets?
I'm thinking if I check the flop, the A5 would of plowed in all his chips I'm sure, difference being I'm calling the allin, rather than being the person putting them all in, maybe the 4 does not crack if I'm calling rather than betting.
In all seriousness, is there any validity to my thinking that I could change the outcome of the river card with my actions before?
This scenario plays out several times a day for me essentially very similar, different cards, but I always get my chips in that type of situation, and a 2 outer hits or a runner runner flush, or running straight. My 35 outs to someone else's 2-14 outs might be running around 20% for me. This is what is getting me thinking out loud here that a far more passive post flop approach is required in my game. More calling and less raising. Roles reversed though, I would of absolutely folded the 44 100% of the time PF. But the passive post flop I'm giving away an opportunity for someone to hit their draw. Wits end here, just struggling to find an answer. Passive also gives an opportunity for that board to get really scary and with my previous experience I could be easily be chased off the best hand. Maybe I'm just toast and tiddlywinks is more my speed. If I keep running at these percentages, I don't see much alternative but to give it up. It does not bother me nearly as much when I may KK and Hero has AA unless it's like the 3rd time within 2 hours that day, that can bother me. Yesterday I was run out of from a high spot in a tournament with 6 in a row very low percentage hits by the hero's. I'm getting very gun shy at the moment.
What am I missing about this online game.
.50 SnG 1 table.
I have AK suited UTG1 and raise to 4 BB
4 callers
Flop 99A Rainbow
Only cards I fear is 9 AA at this point.
I go all in, I'm big stack, it's about 2/3 risk of my stack.
Only thing I have shown the table in previous hands have been big, QQ with q flop, and another flopped set of 4. Other than that, I have folded every other hand.
I get 2 callers, for all their stacks, I'm big stack.
Callers A5 and 44.
4 hits the river.
Questions. Who makes that flop call? What could I have done differently? Where is my mistake? I was thinking if I get called with what I feared, so be it, that's poker, I can easily live with that. But I wanted this hand done right here and now, not about to give anyone another running straight, or a 2 more chances to hit their set.
Hero is multi-tabling the same SnG, has played 100% of hands and called to them all to river and is about 75% win rate. Hero is not aggressive, no PFR, No first in betting, just calls everything every street, every bet. This was not the first hand either where all his chips were in the middle either. I crippled him early with QQ to his AQ all in. He had a slightly larger stack then. I'm rather surprised the A did not hit TBH, but that aside. He also had rivered a couple other times to stay alive.
Am I to aggressive with these big hands to early in the streets?
I'm thinking if I check the flop, the A5 would of plowed in all his chips I'm sure, difference being I'm calling the allin, rather than being the person putting them all in, maybe the 4 does not crack if I'm calling rather than betting.
In all seriousness, is there any validity to my thinking that I could change the outcome of the river card with my actions before?
This scenario plays out several times a day for me essentially very similar, different cards, but I always get my chips in that type of situation, and a 2 outer hits or a runner runner flush, or running straight. My 35 outs to someone else's 2-14 outs might be running around 20% for me. This is what is getting me thinking out loud here that a far more passive post flop approach is required in my game. More calling and less raising. Roles reversed though, I would of absolutely folded the 44 100% of the time PF. But the passive post flop I'm giving away an opportunity for someone to hit their draw. Wits end here, just struggling to find an answer. Passive also gives an opportunity for that board to get really scary and with my previous experience I could be easily be chased off the best hand. Maybe I'm just toast and tiddlywinks is more my speed. If I keep running at these percentages, I don't see much alternative but to give it up. It does not bother me nearly as much when I may KK and Hero has AA unless it's like the 3rd time within 2 hours that day, that can bother me. Yesterday I was run out of from a high spot in a tournament with 6 in a row very low percentage hits by the hero's. I'm getting very gun shy at the moment.
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