Review of 4-tabling session, 100nl 6max

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Yay!

d/ling only because I gotta go and I'm gonna be w/o internets for a while.
 
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Almost forgot...stats are:

vpip/pfr/af/3b/f3b
f cb/cb/wtsd/fBB v steal
limp-call/squeeze/4b range/f v 4b/donk/fold donk to raise
 
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meh, I don't remember much as I watched it in three separate sittings. :)

Your recommendation for the opponent playing AK against you? check/fold, maybe check/call the flop. I'm not sure what the other options there are for you; fold to the 3 bet? Post flop you get kinda trapped by the cards that come out.

What are you color-coding your opponents, even before any written notes? I haven't tried using the color coding yet so I'm curious.

And then I had some comment from one of the DC videos, maybe TubaSteve, about how you can often wait to see the turn and how the turn often shows the real strength of your opponent's hand, but now I don't remember the hand or the context for my making that comment anymore.
 
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CRAI turn for the AK hand was first thing that came to mind for me. Really the river was the weird thing for me, I don't see how he expects me to call with worse vs that bet size, and/or shove with it on the river, so I don't see why he committed himself. I dunno, he didn't play it horribly, I was the one who got lucky but I don't see a fold or a raise anywhere for me either (except pf).

I just label generally loose/passive players as greens asap so I can quickly figure out my relative position to them while multitabling, and make my decisions easier.

Other labels for me (again, just for easy, general, quick reference when multitabling): purple = solid reg, red = super aggro, dark blue = nit and/or someone I can steal from with ~ATC. Obviously want them to my left.

heh, not sure what you mean by that comment. Has to be a specific context.
 
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input and stuff incoming tomorrow!
 
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Okay, I lied. Input and stuff coming tomorrow!
 
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3:50 in (T7 on J-T-8.6-something board): Agree that it's a valuebet. I probably make it a bit smaller (more like halfpot) but the important thing is that you valuebet. 87, 76, A8, 77, etc won't fold. Good bet.

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Around the same time: I play KK the same way (A-high flop, you check OOP)

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5:40 KQo opens and gets 3-bet by the BB: I don't call 3bets with KQo. KQs, I'd look at the flop, but KQo there's just too many ways for you to be dominated versus a somewhat narrow 3-betting range and when you're not dominated you suffer from severe lack of implied odds (since 77 isn't going to pay you off greatly on a K- or Q-high board). Or, differently put:

If we give him 22+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,AJo+,KJo+ (13.4%, probably wider than he actually 3-bets), your equity is only 43%. Poor equity is not a huge problem if you have a hand with good implied odds, but KQo has neither. AJs is about break-even (and the flush possibility + position can push it into profit) and KQs is almost 46% (and is OK for the same reason AJs is). But try filtering for "this year" in HEM, PFR = TRUE, hand = KQo, Position = Button, Call 3bet = true and see if you show a profit. My guess is no, but I don't do it often enough to have a significant sample.

As played, I agree with calling the flop. On the turn, you're in trouble but obviously can't fold to a halfpot bet. The river of course plays itself. I think he screwed up on the river, too, by the way; he probably should have bet a smaller amount and be prepared to fold to a raise. Maybe he fell in love with his two-pair and 4-flush. I think it's kinda cool that he apologized for the rant afterwards, heh.

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13:30 - Q4o, A-Q-J monotone flop, unraised pot. I think you could bet somewhere. I probably bet the flop (this guy probably calls with any king, ten, jack and diamond and there are more of those than there are aces and queens). If called, I would bet small on the turn and then start looking for folds when called. I think most people go into a "I don't care about this hand" mode way too easily when there's money up for grabs. I mean, a lot of people will only lead into unraised pots with rags and nuts and I guess I'm saying that you can play even unraised pots for value with mediocre hands. Not a whole lot of value, sure, but an extra dollar or two on hands like this will do good things for your monthy income.

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17:30 - AKo OTB on a J-high monotone flop (you don't have a flushcard): I think you should c-bet this versus not just competent players but versus just about everyone. The only reason not to c-bet is if you have a real hand and your opponent is really, really bluffy and raise-happy and you don't want to play a big pot. Like if you had black tens on an all-heart flop and your opponent raises c-bets 30%+ of the time, you might check it back. But with AK, take the fold equity. And when you're called, it's not the end of the world; you may still have the best hand but should probably still check back the turn since you won't have >50% equity versus his calling range and your fold-equity is now considerably lower (since most of the stuff you have fold equity versus would have folded on the flop).

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20:03 - WTF?! HEM has a table scanner now? I need to download the latest update, I think!

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Lunch break! I'll continue from 22 minutes in later on.
 
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...you could always click the link and try :confused:

But yeah, it's working on my end.

costs an extra $64.

Yes, but it's WELL worth it. It's multiple times faster than spadeit's scanners, especially if you server-side scanning (which admittedly costs a ridiculous monthly fee).

But yeah, it's very very very good and well worth the money.
 
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Interesting vid and comments in thread. You haven't posted on your blog in a while, hopefully you're doing well. :) It looks like you're at least holding steady.

...Itchy Back!
 
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