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Hello.. Ive just started to play these types of tournys Low buyin $1-$2 From what Ive seen they play out like a freeroll all in and rebuys until the add on then it get a little more civil... I would like to put together a good solid strategy to play these tournys.... Any suggestions would be great...
I would like not to have to buyin alot and think that I start with the most chip buyin aloud...Thx for any suggestions gl
 
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Rebuys can be very frustrating.
As you saw, people tend to be VERY loose till the end of the rebuy/add on time limit.

My advice for these is similar to a free roll, TIGHT.
Don't be chasing those straights, flushes (especially the little ones).
Wait till you HAVE a hand, a premium hand, and then start building your pot.
You WILL get action almost every time till the Rebuy time is up.

Hope this helps

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I won a few of the 1 dollar rebuys when I used to play them on UB and it seems like a very loose freeroll at first.
My most succesful strategy was to buy in for the max and push in any premium hand regardless of position (they will generally give you action). If I won great if not rebuy again. If I picked up enough chips at first 12K to 15K I shifted gears down and waited for break , bought the add-on and went about my play like any tournament.
You will notice a real rush of play and some odd play right before the rebuy period ends , people will dunp 100+ chips and fold just to get below rebuy threshold . Then others that didn't stack up make a last frenzied effort.This time period can be profitable if you hit some great cards but costly if you force it.
In the begining description I mentioned jamming any premium hand but neglected to mention fold anything else.
Hope this was of some use to you GL.
 
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Basically you want to try to build a stack to 5k+.

At times, you gotta give action to get action. Great thing about rebuys, you're usually sitting on the same table with the same players for the first hour... so chips you donk off are basically 'on loan'. It's ok to donk some off & get a bunch of chips on your table.. unless you're sitting with a bunch of NITS.
 
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I tend to stay away from unlimited rebuy tournaments, because people do play them as if they were freerolls, and small ones. But if you are willing to give them a try, take into account that you will most likely be making rebuys as them, and also should get the addon. Just after the first hour, the tournament really starts, so you won't know for sure how much money you'll be spending at a given R+A tournament.
 
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I won a few of the 1 dollar rebuys when I used to play them on UB and it seems like a very loose freeroll at first.
My most succesful strategy was to buy in for the max and push in any premium hand regardless of position (they will generally give you action). If I won great if not rebuy again. If I picked up enough chips at first 12K to 15K I shifted gears down and waited for break , bought the add-on and went about my play like any tournament.
You will notice a real rush of play and some odd play right before the rebuy period ends , people will dunp 100+ chips and fold just to get below rebuy threshold . Then others that didn't stack up make a last frenzied effort.This time period can be profitable if you hit some great cards but costly if you force it.
In the begining description I mentioned jamming any premium hand but neglected to mention fold anything else.
Hope this was of some use to you GL.

That is exactly how I play them. One thing to remember when you are shoving with any premium hand you have to be prepared especially in early position to get a lot of callers so the earlier the position you shove the more profit for you if you win but the bigger chance of getting your AA cracked too. Just flow with it do not start shoving with crap just because crap beat you. The most important thing is set yourself a limit before you start. The minimum money spot in a rebuy is usually about 5 buy ins so say 5 buy ins any more just move on your wasting money.
 
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Best way to play tournaments like this is to play big money hand. Playing lots of suited connectors and pocket pairs early when the blinds are low. Your goal here is to flop monster draw, set, or made hand better than a pair or two pair. If you can flop a big hand early more ppl will be inclines to call you with little value because they can always re buy. If you are willing to re buy a few times then just get it in with any live cards and play for a double up. At low stakes like $1/$2 buy in people will get it in with anything so either you pick up a made hand which may be tough to come around unless you are running good or just get it in early and hope for the best then play more conservative once you get your double or triple up.
 
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That is exactly how I play them. One thing to remember when you are shoving with any premium hand you have to be prepared especially in early position to get a lot of callers so the earlier the position you shove the more profit for you if you win but the bigger chance of getting your AA cracked too. Just flow with it do not start shoving with crap just because crap beat you. The most important thing is set yourself a limit before you start. The minimum money spot in a rebuy is usually about 5 buy ins so say 5 buy ins any more just move on your wasting money.

please do explain why spending 5 rebuys in two tournaments and quitting when you hit that limit is better than 10 rebuys in one rebuy tournament?
 
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please do explain why spending 5 rebuys in two tournaments and quitting when you hit that limit is better than 10 rebuys in one rebuy tournament?
Its a good question I was wondering the same thing although I dont really want to spend to much buying chips each tourny but Id would like to here arguments so I can make the right choice when Im playing:D
 
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please do explain why spending 5 rebuys in two tournaments and quitting when you hit that limit is better than 10 rebuys in one rebuy tournament?
If you do not set yourself a limit it could seriously and I mean seriously get out of control. You could possibly end up rebuying 30 times. Believe me I've seen it happen. Then only to bust out once rebuys stop because you are so far on tilt from all those beats its not even funny. You can do whatever you wish. It is just a rule I personally follow.
No need to take my advice do what you want and good luck to you:D
 
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You should absolutely not be playing tight early on in rebuy tournaments unless you want to let everyone else have advantage over you when the rebuy period ends. You should go into a rebuy tournament knowing that you are willing to spend another 5-15?BI's on rebuys. You want to get your money in with much more marginal hands than usual because you're just looking to build build build.

Also, if you are playing a rebuy and don't do an initial double buyin or if you don't take the addon at the end of the rebuy period, you are automatically labeled as a huge donk because you obviously don't know how to play rebuys.

If you're looking for something a little more solid, here is the CardsChat article on how to play rebuys: https://www.cardschat.com/rebuy-tournament-strategy.php
Not sure if it's outdated at all, I haven't read it in a LONG time, but I'm sure most of it will still be applicable.
 
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If you do not set yourself a limit it could seriously and I mean seriously get out of control. You could possibly end up rebuying 30 times. Believe me I've seen it happen. Then only to bust out once rebuys stop because you are so far on tilt from all those beats its not even funny. You can do whatever you wish. It is just a rule I personally follow.
No need to take my advice do what you want and good luck to you:D

if you tilt that badly then don't play poker if you want to win. and if you play poker and don't want to win then don't worry about how many times you do rebuy cos hey, youre having fun!

in most rebuy tournies online, the addon is bigger than the rebuy for the same price. this means it offers more chips per cent, and is therefore better equity. so your main aim in every rebuy tournament should be to make the addon period as cheaply as possible and then play from there. planning on going through 5-15BI taking marginal spots seems foolish - you should be playing your own game, and given the number of games you can play online passing up marginal spots would be foolish anyway so you'll be taking no more spots than you would be anyway. that doesn't mean be an uber nit, but at the same time you shouldnt be going crazy because you can rebuy - you should be adjusting your own equity calculations to take into account the wider ranges of your opponents, so stuff like getting TT and JJ in pre for 100bb becomes more standard
 
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If you look at a lot of the rebuy regulars(well, back at FTP and PS when we were allowed), many are right at about 9 BI's as an average per rebuy tourney. I guess one area where I may have been misunderstood is when I said marginal hands. I wasn't meaning open shoving with stuff like JTs, but rather your 99, TT, JJ type hands that you would normally fold to an Allin with in a normal structure.
 
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Its a good question I was wondering the same thing although I dont really want to spend to much buying chips each tourny but Id would like to here arguments so I can make the right choice when Im playing:D
In my opinion setting a limit on your buy ins makes very good sense as the prize pool wont be growing in proportion to your investment .Would you invest 20+ dollars in a tournament that only pays 100 bucks or so for 1st ? If you put to much in you just chase in hopes of breaking even and it clouds your judgement .
You cant win em all , might as well try to have fun with the ones you do.
 
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In my opinion setting a limit on your buy ins makes very good sense as the prize pool wont be growing in proportion to your investment .Would you invest 20+ dollars in a tournament that only pays 100 bucks or so for 1st ?
Depends on how many people are in it. If it is huge, then the tournament structure is dumb. If it is small then yes, That is around what a $20 SnG would have the payout for.
 
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In my opinion setting a limit on your buy ins makes very good sense as the prize pool wont be growing in proportion to your investment .Would you invest 20+ dollars in a tournament that only pays 100 bucks or so for 1st ? If you put to much in you just chase in hopes of breaking even and it clouds your judgement .
You cant win em all , might as well try to have fun with the ones you do.

doesn't matter how much you invest - it's not like you can get your money back. once you have to rebuy, just forget about previous rebuys, they are irrelevant
 
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I always wondered what the angel of death looked like. Then one night I felt it. A tightness in my chest turned to shooting pain. Shooting straight down my left arm. I staggered and reached for the phone...

As I fell on the floor feeling like this would be it for me. I could hear him approaching. Coming to gather my soul. And as I looked up through the fog of my fading seconds, there he stood in all his fearsome glory..

The rebuy tournament.


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LOL - my first and only rebuy. Got stuck at an Indian Casino is south Colorado as my flight got canceled. Unlimited rebuy until first break is over (only $10 rebuy). Actually I didn't even know it was unlimited. My only experience was online and you couldn't rebuy unless you were under starting stack.

My Broadway got taken out by a flush just before break so I figured what the hell - laid $10 down a chipped up again. Thnen the break hit and guys are pulling $100 bills out of the their pockets and getting mounds and mounds of chips. Holy crap!!!!! First decent hand I shoved and was out within a few minutes after break.
I always wondered what the angel of death looked like. Then one night I felt it. A tightness in my chest turned to shooting pain. Shooting straight down my left arm. I staggered and reached for the phone...

As I fell on the floor feeling like this would be it for me. I could hear him approaching. Coming to gather my soul. And as I looked up through the fog of my fading seconds, there he stood in all his fearsome glory..

The rebuy tournament.


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I always wondered what the angel of death looked like. Then one night I felt it. A tightness in my chest turned to shooting pain. Shooting straight down my left arm. I staggered and reached for the phone...

As I fell on the floor feeling like this would be it for me. I could hear him approaching. Coming to gather my soul. And as I looked up through the fog of my fading seconds, there he stood in all his fearsome glory..

The rebuy tournament.


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I love that!!!

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I always wondered what the angel of death looked like. Then one night I felt it. A tightness in my chest turned to shooting pain. Shooting straight down my left arm. I staggered and reached for the phone...

As I fell on the floor feeling like this would be it for me. I could hear him approaching. Coming to gather my soul. And as I looked up through the fog of my fading seconds, there he stood in all his fearsome glory..

The rebuy tournament.


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lol Maybe Im to old for these tournys.:rolleyes: ...:eek: ....Thx for all the input folks.....:cool:
 
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When you get big hands early, you love these. If not, then you can blind down pretty quickly.

Just go all in when you have a strong hand, and hope it holds up. If you get pass the first hr with a big stack, you are in good shape. Then it's time to start playing.
 
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2007 wsop, Layne Flack made multi rebuys (19) in the $1,500 PLO rebuy & also took down 1st place for $577,725 & the bracelet!

Daniel Negreanu holds the record for most rebuys in a WSOP rebuy tourney, at '48' rebuys!
 
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negreanu was a strange case tho iirc - pretty sure he rebought as many times as possible on purpose so he could get a ton of chips in circulation on the table and win them back after rebuys had ended. wouldn't work for non-pros who get moved tables more often i imagine, and especially not online
 
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2007 WSOP, Layne Flack made multi rebuys (19) in the $1,500 PLO rebuy & also took down 1st place for $577,725 & the bracelet!

Daniel Negreanu holds the record for most rebuys in a WSOP rebuy tourney, at '48' rebuys!

There was no way once they entered that tournament they were leaving before the rebuys stopped. If Daniel had too he would have rebought every hand. Which with 48 rebuys it seems quite possible he did.
 
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negreanu was a strange case tho iirc - pretty sure he rebought as many times as possible on purpose so he could get a ton of chips in circulation on the table and win them back after rebuys had ended. wouldn't work for non-pros who get moved tables more often i imagine, and especially not online

I thought negreanu had a prop bet that he would reach the FT in that paticular tourney so had to build up as many chips as possible because the cost of a re-buy was nothing compared to the prop bet so it was always +ev playing maniacal and just rebuying. Could be wrong though, just vaguely recall reading that on 2p2 a few days ago.
 
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