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Hello all. I have found out recently that I really enjoy playing Razz. I have worked my way up but one question keeps bugging me.

Isn't it theoretically possible to have more cards on the table than there are in a deck? And if so, how does a poker site handle that?

If you are sitting at a Full Ring table and everyone sees every card that is 63 cards, with only 52 being in a deck. What happens?
 
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Same with all 7 card games (stud/stud8) then provide 7th street as a community card that every one still in the hand can use. Just like for example the river card in hold'em.
 
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If you are sitting at a Full Ring table and everyone sees every card that is 63 cards, with only 52 being in a deck. What happens?
One minor correction...full tables in razz are 8 players, not 9, so it would be 56 cards opposed to 63. This doesn't change the answer at all, it is just what tenbob said would happen if it ever got that far.
 
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There are a few exceptions to the 'community' card. One I can think of is 2-7 triple draw. In a game where cards are discarded by the players for another draw, the muck cards are re-shuffled with the remaining deck and re-used in future draw cards.

In that case, you 'could' see the same card 2 to 3 times in your hand. Unlikely, but possible.
 
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There are a few exceptions to the 'community' card. One I can think of is 2-7 triple draw. In a game where cards are discarded by the players for another draw, the muck cards are re-shuffled with the remaining deck and re-used in future draw cards.

In that case, you 'could' see the same card 2 to 3 times in your hand. Unlikely, but possible.

There was a minor drama over this at the wsop this year - apparently what's supposed to happen is the dealer is meant to keep two separate mucks (one for complete mucked hands, and the other for discarded cards) and only the complete mucked hands are supposed to be reshuffled, to prevent players from being dealt a card on the third draw that they threw away on the first. What actually happend though was everything was getting reshuffled and players were getting cards they'd discarded previously.

My take home message from all of this was if you're going to play decue-seven, FFS play NL single draw. It's more fun for starters, and you pretty much never have to deal with issues like the above.

This is all completely off topic though, seeing as how deuce-seven is a draw game and not a stud game :p

Tenbob and JD have it, if the deck runs out of cards in a stud game a community card gets dealt on seventh street.
 
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Huh, never knew. Thanks for the responses.
 
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I never thought about that..learn something everyday
 
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