Razz

Anyone know where i can learn the hand strengths to razz like you can get for Hold em' so two pair beats a pair whats the hands for razz likes 2,3,4,5,6 does that beat A,4,5,6,7 or what?

I think it is a truly interesting game though I like the idea of playing low in stead of high it seems very fun to play but just sometimes dont understand how to know if i truly am going to win

So far what i know about razz is that a straight is good lower the better
and the Ace is an awsome card to have but i just dont understand hand strengths when it comes to razz

hrussel17 said:

Anyone know where i can learn the hand strengths to razz like you can get for Hold em' so two pair beats a pair whats the hands for razz likes 2,3,4,5,6 does that beat A,4,5,6,7 or what?

I think it is a truly interesting game though I like the idea of playing low in stead of high it seems very fun to play but just sometimes dont understand how to know if i truly am going to win

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It's very simple. Straights and flushes don't count. Ace is low. Best possible hand, called a wheel, is A,2,3,4,5. Hand is ranked from your highest card to your lowest card.

In your example, 2,3,4,5,6 does beat A,4,5,6,7 because the first hand's highest card is a 6 and the second's highest card is a 7.

There is a long thread devoted to razz here: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/general-poker-13/razz-poker-who-what-why-when-127976/

WOW!, is it really that simple? huh i wish i knew that before player with the highest card in the series has worst hand... So if i understand this correctly, you are saying that 9,10,J,Q,K would lose to A,6,8,10,K?

hrussel17 said:

WOW!, is it really that simple? huh i wish i knew that before player with the highest card in the series has worst hand... So if i understand this correctly, you are saying that 9,10,J,Q,K would lose to A,6,8,10,K?

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Yes. But anyone taking either of those hands to 7th street in razz is just giving their chips away.

The table in the post from justinx is horribly misleading for a novice player, listing all kinds of non-playable hands and leaving out dozens of playable combinations. Hands 10, 11 & 12 are good to excellent razz hands. Hands 7, 8 & 9 are playable, depending on what cards your opponents are showing. Hands 1 through 6 shouldn't be mentioned or listed in any table concerning razz.

As I suggested earlier, go to the suggested thread and read the posts. There is a tremendous amount of good information concerning the ins and outs of razz.

Yeah the more RAZZ I play the more I realize how easy of a game it is. It`s amazing how many players cant play it. I wish the game was a bit more fun for me though. It`s basically another form of a stud game.

darc11 said:

Yeah the more RAZZ I play the more I realize how easy of a game it is. It`s amazing how many players cant play it. I wish the game was a bit more fun for me though. It`s basically another form of a stud game.

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You are right that is is another form of stud.

As to how "easy" it is, I would disagree vehemently. It may appear "easy" because so many of the people playing it haven't got a clue of what they are doing. Get on a table with players who know how to play the game and then decide how "easy" it is. Anyone who thinks any version of stud is easy doesn't really understand stud. I am of the age group who played 5 and 7 card stud and 5 card draw before anyone outside of a few pros in Texas had ever heard of Hold Em. You cannot compare Stud and Holdem any more than you can compare apples and pomegranates. Very different games. Very different skills.

darc11 said:

Yeah the more RAZZ I play the more I realize how easy of a game it is. It`s amazing how many players cant play it. I wish the game was a bit more fun for me though. It`s basically another form of a stud game.

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Is winning fun?

I don't agree that razz is an easy game. Like any stud game when 4 of your cards will be exposed it leads to a lot of strategy and creative playing. Playing against players that don't have a clue on what they are doing can be frustrating. Your "smart plays" can sometimes blowup because a razz hand can turn too garbage quick and weak hands that should have been folded will sometimes catchup.

A-RAG said:

I don't agree that razz is an easy game. Like any stud game when 4 of your cards will be exposed it leads to a lot of strategy and creative playing. Playing against players that don't have a clue on what they are doing can be frustrating. Your "smart plays" can sometimes blowup because a razz hand can turn too garbage quick and weak hands that should have been folded will sometimes catchup.

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Actually it is an easier game than just about any other form of poker imo. That still doesn't mean it's "easy". It's not hard to play it at a decent level without a whole lot of training, but to play at a top notch level still takes a lot of skill and knowledge. If you can identify situations where your opponent thinks he's a favorite, but you know you're a 55/45 favorite, that's a skill and you should keep raising him as many times as he's willing. You will still lose that pot 45% of the time, however.