Problem with limpers

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Hi all,
I'm new to the forum and I am really trying to get serious about my passion for poker by working hard at my game! I'm playing micro stakes sit and gos and some multitable tournaments to try and practice and build my game slowly with as little bankroll risks as possible. My question though is in regards to limpers. As you all know at the small stakes you get a lot of people being very passive and limping into pots. Now when i get a big hand pre flop like big pocket pairs I'm finding it very hard to narrow the amount of people in the hand. Even when there has been 3/4 limpers before me and i put in 6/7 times the blind to try and push people out they still call with crappy hands! When I'm the first one to open I raise 3x the big blind but i get a few callers. So my question is how can I get the most value out of my hand but without having big multiway pots? Should I be passive with all my hands also pre flop and then try and outplay the others post flop? Any help would be much appreciated, Thanks.
 
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General rule of thumb is raising 3x plus one per limper. The limpets will be punished in the long run when you hit.

Paragraph your post to make it easier to read, otherwise people will just ignore it.
 
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tho I can be a limper sometimes
just 3x bet (or more as stated above) EVERY hand you play,
if they are paying 6,7x like you say, they are real fish and you should win more in the long run
 
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It's not a problem when opponents who are behind call your raises after limping in. Yes, they'll draw out on you, and the more of them there are, the more often one of them will draw out.

But the goal is to win as much money as possible, not the largest number of hands. Assuming you develop some ability not to pay off to the max when opponents hit their hands, it's profitable to play opponents who are willing to let you build pots while they're behind.
 
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If I have a big pocket pair pref flop, with a bunch of limpers at the table. I will go all in, and take their bets. If you do this enough times to them they will stop limping. Or at the very least you will get rid of some of them so you are hopefully heads up, and double up.
 
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Tournaments strategy may be different due to the structure but for cash game play I bump it up to 5x + 1BB for every limper in the pot and I do this without just about every hand I have in my positional range except in a few cases where isolating doesn't look to be as profitable as limping behind.

As others have said 3x +1BB per limper is standard and seeing as you are playing tournaments and unlikely to be 100BB+ all the time I would recommend going for the standard raise sizing but if you find yourself with 4 or 5 limpers don't be afraid to make a super sized raise, or indeed go all in as you could get called by worse.
 
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At a passive table, in the right position, where I feel confident to get in for 1 BB, a QJ or KT or even a 87s kinda thing is worth taking a look at.

But, youregoodmate is right. If you come back over top, I'm gone. Having shot myself in the foot.

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I bump it up to 5x + 1BB for every limper in the pot and I do this without just about every hand I have in my positional range.

Thats an excessive raise online, you'll find yourself getting squeezed often by regs when they catch on.
 
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