Originally Posted by alyoung
right im going to ask you a silly few questions here so bear with me........why does it matter how much money the villian has?.....say he has $75 and raises to $7 and we call, hoping to hit the set, then he would prob raise to $16?.. (we hit the set) .obv we would just call it and trap him.....is that right...trap?.....so on the river he would bet say $35 and we would reraise to $50 because thats all he would have right enough, but its still a nice pot.......now everything you say jchoop im taking as gospel because compared to me you are a pro, but i would just like to know why he would need to have 20bb at the start of the hand.....is it a rule of thumb that you follow these rules or do you look at each situation seperately depending on your starting hand probability......im sorry im coming across dense lol
i just reread this and i think i understand your scenario a bit better. you used raise where i highlighted instead of bet again, and it confused the whole hand for me.
i think your scenario is you raise to $3, villain reraises to $7, you call. so pot on the flop is between $14-17 depending on whether villain and/or ourselves were in the blinds.
what id do on the flop here when i hit my set is entirely dependent on the flop texture, as well as our position, and our villains postflop tendencies.
if i think my opponent has a legit hand, ill raise. if i dont think he does, then i wont. its comes down to being able to pick whether your opponent has a hand or not, which is why you need stats. if i think he has an overpair/TPTK type hands, ie hands that i can stack, i try to get as much money in as possible without
raising him- as this conceals the strength of our hand. the only time i will raise in position is when the board is threatening, say something like 678 with two hearts, where any heart, 9, T or 5 is going to kill a lot of our action. out of position, i try to avoid check/raising for value. microstakes players are shit at bluffing, and the check/raising range for most players is massively skewed to value. ie they wont check raise as a bluff ever. therefore, checkraises are viewed as being super strong hands the vast majority of the time. you checkraise most opponents on a flop, watch them flat and cautiously check down top pair top kick the next two streets.
point of the story, i much prefer donking with my sets for value out of position, and save checkraising for like 75% bluffs and 25% value hands