Premium Hand Limp or Small Bet from Early Position Occassionally

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I know most people feel opening the pot with a limp is foolish. But I feel like there's one situation where it could have an advantage. I'm pretty new to microstakes NLH and so play very tight, aggressively ABC poker. But sometimes 20 hands will go by where I don't play because my hands are garbage. Then - BOOM - AA or something like that pops up from UTG or some other early position. If I make an aggressive value bet, everyone behind me folds for sure. Even the spewiest calling stations. Wouldn't this be a good spot to sneak in with a limp or a 1 BB micro raise?
 
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depends on the table of the situation in the case that you mentioned , what happens to the frequency micro stakes , can be good limp . But should you care if other 2 or 3 limpers after you because AA will be very vulnerable
 
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Every crazy move can make you winner. It's a card game. Here no rules! In different tables you will need different tactics. If you see that well-timed limp can help to win good pot, you should to do it. But in the same time it it can appear the reason of your loss. Risk is real! And remember, that people, who do not rask. do not drink champagne! )))
 
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I agree with 2Pacavelli; I wouldn't limp with AA. I would balance your range with an occasional open from UTG or UTG+1 with trash. I say trash because you'll want to get away from it easily on the flop. If you're more disciplined, then try something from the bottom of your range.

Usually, though, I try to open very wide on the button, and somewhat on the cutoff. To Microstakes players, this can make me look looser than I really am since they see me in more hands. Many of these players aren't thinking about position much.

In any event, I try to camouflage my best hands in early position by getting a few trash ones in here and there. But at microstakes, you really don't need to get fancy if you're facing the right opponents.
 
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With AA v 1 opponent you are 80:20 favourite. Against 2 opponents that drops to 70% favourite and by the time you get to 5 opponents you will be less than 50% favourite.

By limping you allow the typical Microstakes donk to get in the hand cheaply and you will find youtself in that position fairly often, if you limp.

Naturally a fairly stiff C-bet can chase many of them away post flop but that won't work on the clown who filled his str8 with his 9,6 off.

Sometimes AA gets cracked when played aggressively but that happens far more frequently when slow played.
 
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You don't need to balance at micro stakes really. If you're playing full ring then limping AA from UTG can be fine if you think you're going to be raised. But it's not a hand you want to play multi-way - bear that in mind.
 
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Not a big fan of limping with premium hands. Limp/raise looks ridiculously strong and any other eventuality (limp/call, limped pot), especially on micro, leaves you playing your aces postflop in a multiway pot very often, which is not very comfortable on certain kinds of boards.
 
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I personally think no because if u slow play it yes u may get someone off guard but then u will lose ur reputation of being a tight player. I personally play tight most of the time so when i get a good hand people respect me because they know i probably have a great hand. It may sound like an unagressive move but to me its the safe move to continue ur status and longevity in the game or table ur playing on, plus with that respect u can bluff just about when ever u want :) hope thats helpfull good luck out there
 
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With AA v 1 opponent you are 80:20 favourite. Against 2 opponents that drops to 70% favourite and by the time you get to 5 opponents you will be less than 50% favourite.

By limping you allow the typical Microstakes donk to get in the hand cheaply and you will find youtself in that position fairly often, if you limp.

Naturally a fairly stiff C-bet can chase many of them away post flop but that won't work on the clown who filled his str8 with his 9,6 off.

Sometimes AA gets cracked when played aggressively but that happens far more frequently when slow played.

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Well said. Well spoken there big guy. No need for me to add anything to this.
 
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